In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started in windows 2000. Look at windows 10, particularly the creators update, and narrator is not as simple as it once was.
Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk > <[email protected]> wrote: > > narrator first started in windows xp I remember me and my mother talking to > microsoft at the time and we actually got to speak with bill gates about > putting speech into windows which I am glad he had taken the idea and put > speech into windows. > > >> On 5/16/2017 3:25 PM, John Farley via Talk wrote: >> Richard, >> >> Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. That >> has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if not from >> their inception. >> >> However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech capability. >> Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator functionality, but because it is not >> designed into the operating system from the beginning it does not have good >> enough functionality for anything other than the simplest. >> >> Therefore the various software houses that wrote and sold the solutions for >> the problem came up with speech reading software. >> >> I cannot think of anyone who would provide their effort and brain power full >> time for many years for nothing. >> How would you expect them to feed and clothe themselves and their families? >> >> ~The object of your ire should be Microsoft, not the screen reader >> manufacturers. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, John >> >> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:28 PM >> To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people do not >> need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra software and >> even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind people should be >> given software so they can survive in this tech world. I've read many of >> your e-mails and you get mad like me if mlb messes up and you are >> completely right however you have all the time in the world since and I'm >> not trying to offend you, but once you told me that you don't work and if I >> am wrong now I'm sorry. You shouldn't have to go a million steps to be able >> use a computer if you are blind. Sighted people all they do is click and >> drag all day long. If they use any key strokes it is the windows key >> strokes since they don't need to know any key strokes. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:44 PM >> To: 'Nick Sarames' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> I agree either accept the offer or don't. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM >> To: Kurlander Richard (750000); Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >> realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and >> experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for >> example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so probably >> any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but others need far >> more than I do. >> >> No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have to >> adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or commercial >> (meaning for the sighted public as well). >> >>> On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Kurlander Richard (750000) >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM >>> To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> >>> Subject: whole migrating situation >>> >>> As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are >>> using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and >>> Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since vfo >>> bought all these other companies that they should tried to make the >>> screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to have >>> to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen readers >>> you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys, application keys not >>> use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain in the neck to keep >>> switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have had a window-eyes >>> keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is that Microsoft wants >>> everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox or chrome any more. >>> I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or >>> listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think I >>> have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where are >>> the cheat sheets that >> c >>> an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a geek. All >> screne readers should be made simple not all the intricate stuff that you >> have to do and that is where vfo should try to work with Microsoft as well >> as all screne readers should work with Microsoft to help the blind. 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