Wow your unreasonable to say the least -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of richard kurlander via Talk Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:50 AM To: john_far...@btinternet.com; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation
AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and they don't have the money to even buy software or embossers if they want to braille. gw micro should have been working with microsoft from the getgo. People can work from home and work in their underwear to help people, that's why vfo should have 24 hour tech support. t 04:25 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote: >Richard, > >Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. >That has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if >not from their inception. > >However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech capability. >Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator functionality, but because it is >not designed into the operating system from the beginning it does not >have good enough functionality for anything other than the simplest. > >Therefore the various software houses that wrote and sold the solutions >for the problem came up with speech reading software. > >I cannot think of anyone who would provide their effort and brain power >full time for many years for nothing. >How would you expect them to feed and clothe themselves and their families? > >~The object of your ire should be Microsoft, not the screen reader >manufacturers. > > > > >Regards, John > >Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Talk >[mailto:talk-bounces+john_farley=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com] >On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk >Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:28 PM >To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List >Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation > >It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people >do not need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra >software and even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind >people should be given software so they can survive in this tech world. >I've read many of your e-mails and you get mad like me if mlb messes >up and you are completely right however you have all the time in the >world since and I'm not trying to offend you, but once you told me >that you don't work and if I am wrong now I'm sorry. You shouldn't have >to go a million steps to be able use a computer if you are blind. >Sighted people all they do is click and drag all day long. If they use >any key strokes it is the windows key strokes since they don't need to know any key strokes. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Talk >[mailto:talk-bounces+rkurlan=schools.nyc....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:44 PM >To: 'Nick Sarames' <nicksara...@msn.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ><talk@lists.window-eyes.com> >Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation > >I agree either accept the offer or don't. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Talk >[mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] >On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk >Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM >To: Kurlander Richard (750000); Window-Eyes Discussion List >Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation > >With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and >experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys >(for example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so >probably any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but >others need far more than I do. > >No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have >to adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or >commercial (meaning for the sighted public as well). > >On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kurlander Richard (750000) > > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM > > To: 'talk-l...@window-eyes.com' <talk-l...@window-eyes.com> > > Subject: whole migrating situation > > > > As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are > > using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and > > Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since > > vfo bought all these other companies that they should tried to make > > the screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to > > have to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen > > readers you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys, > > application keys not use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain > > in the neck to keep switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have > > had a window-eyes keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is > > that Microsoft wants everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox or chrome any more. > > I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or > > listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think > > I have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where > > are the cheat sheets that > c > > an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a > > geek. All >screne readers should be made simple not all the intricate stuff that >you have to do and that is where vfo should try to work with >Microsoft as well as all screne readers should work with Microsoft to >help the blind. 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