And what if Microsoft wasn't interested? It would be nice if we were a strong economic force with leverage, but we're not.
On 5/17/2017 1:50 AM, richard kurlander via Talk wrote: > AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and they > don't have the money to even buy software or embossers if they want to > braille. gw micro should have been working with microsoft from the > getgo. People can work from home and work in their underwear to help > people, that's why vfo should have 24 hour tech support. t 04:25 PM > 5/16/2017, you wrote: >> Richard, >> >> Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know. That >> has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if not >> from >> their inception. >> >> However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech >> capability. >> Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator functionality, but because it is not >> designed into the operating system from the beginning it does not have >> good >> enough functionality for anything other than the simplest. >> >> Therefore the various software houses that wrote and sold the >> solutions for >> the problem came up with speech reading software. >> >> I cannot think of anyone who would provide their effort and brain >> power full >> time for many years for nothing. >> How would you expect them to feed and clothe themselves and their >> families? >> >> ~The object of your ire should be Microsoft, not the screen reader >> manufacturers. >> >> >> >> >> Regards, John >> >> Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 >> Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:28 PM >> To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people >> do not >> need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra >> software and >> even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind people should be >> given software so they can survive in this tech world. I've read many of >> your e-mails and you get mad like me if mlb messes up and you are >> completely right however you have all the time in the world since and I'm >> not trying to offend you, but once you told me that you don't work >> and if I >> am wrong now I'm sorry. You shouldn't have to go a million steps to be >> able >> use a computer if you are blind. Sighted people all they do is click >> and >> drag all day long. If they use any key strokes it is the windows key >> strokes since they don't need to know any key strokes. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:44 PM >> To: 'Nick Sarames' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> I agree either accept the offer or don't. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk >> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM >> To: Kurlander Richard (750000); Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: FW: whole migrating situation >> >> With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have >> realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and >> experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys (for >> example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so >> probably >> any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but others >> need far >> more than I do. >> >> No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have to >> adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or commercial >> (meaning for the sighted public as well). >> >> On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote: >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Kurlander Richard (750000) >> > Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:50 AM >> > To: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> >> > Subject: whole migrating situation >> > >> > As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are >> > using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and >> > Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since vfo >> > bought all these other companies that they should tried to make the >> > screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to have >> > to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen readers >> > you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys, application keys not >> > use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain in the neck to keep >> > switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have had a window-eyes >> > keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is that Microsoft wants >> > everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox or chrome any more. >> > I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or >> > listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think I >> > have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where are >> > the cheat sheets that >> c >> > an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a >> geek. All >> screne readers should be made simple not all the intricate stuff that you >> have to do and that is where vfo should try to work with Microsoft >> as well >> as all screne readers should work with Microsoft to help the blind. 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