How am I unreasonable when mlb wasn't working you would be moaning and groaning
calling everyone you could since you have the time to do it since you don't
work. You seem to be knowledgable, so why don't you go to vfo and ask them if
they can use you as a consultant so you can get paid?
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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:55 AM
To: 'richard kurlander' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
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Subject: RE: FW: whole migrating situation
Wow your unreasonable to say the least
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Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 1:50 AM
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AI have a full time job, a lot of blindpeople are unemployeed and they don't
have the money to even buy software or embossers if they want to braille. gw
micro should have been working with microsoft from the getgo. People can
work from home and work in their underwear to help people, that's why vfo
should have 24 hour tech support. t
04:25 PM 5/16/2017, you wrote:
Richard,
Currently Apple products come with built in speech, as you may know.
That has been a native part of the operating system for many years, if
not from their inception.
However, Microsoft Windows did not originally come with a speech
capability.
Microsoft are slowly adding Narrator functionality, but because it is
not designed into the operating system from the beginning it does not
have good enough functionality for anything other than the simplest.
Therefore the various software houses that wrote and sold the solutions
for the problem came up with speech reading software.
I cannot think of anyone who would provide their effort and brain power
full time for many years for nothing.
How would you expect them to feed and clothe themselves and their families?
~The object of your ire should be Microsoft, not the screen reader
manufacturers.
Regards, John
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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:28 PM
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It is not a matter whether to accept or not to accept, sighted people
do not need extra software to use a computer. Blind people need extra
software and even though I work can pay for any software I feel blind
people should be given software so they can survive in this tech world.
I've read many of your e-mails and you get mad like me if mlb messes
up and you are completely right however you have all the time in the
world since and I'm not trying to offend you, but once you told me
that you don't work and if I am wrong now I'm sorry. You shouldn't have
to go a million steps to be able use a computer if you are blind.
Sighted people all they do is click and drag all day long. If they use
any key strokes it is the windows key strokes since they don't need to
know any key strokes.
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I agree either accept the offer or don't.
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Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:30 PM
To: Kurlander Richard (750000); Window-Eyes Discussion List
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With all due respect, you're sounding like a child. One thing I have
realized from participating on this list, is the variety of needs and
experiences WE users have. So while you and I don't use mouse keys
(for example), others do. I probably use %2 of WE's functionality, so
probably any screen reader I use will work for my needs or wants, but
others need far more than I do.
No one is forcing you to purchase anything, but likely, you will have
to adapt to new technology whether that technology is adaptive or
commercial (meaning for the sighted public as well).
On 5/16/2017 10:13 AM, Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk wrote:
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Subject: whole migrating situation
As a window-eyes user since 1997 I feel that people who used and are
using window-eyes were sold down the river and in the end Doug and
Aaron and all of gw micro actually sold us out. I feel that since
vfo bought all these other companies that they should tried to make
the screen readers as close to each other as possible, not having to
have to learn a new screen reader. I think that when you use screen
readers you should only have to use arrow keys, tab keys,
application keys not use mouse keys, numpad keys since it is a pain
in the neck to keep switching and holding down keys. Vfo could have
had a window-eyes keyboard layout and the biggest problem also is
that Microsoft wants everyone to use Microsoft edge and not ie firefox
or chrome any more.
I am sick and tired of tech people telling you to read a manuel or
listen to pod casts. I am a blind person who works and do you think
I have the time or energy to have to listen to the editorals? Where
are the cheat sheets that
c
an be sent out? I am not a computer geek or do I want to be a
geek. All
screne readers should be made simple not all the intricate stuff that
you have to do and that is where vfo should try to work with
Microsoft as well as all screne readers should work with Microsoft to
help the blind. The Microsoft people on the accessibility line should
be trained with all screne readers.
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