Thank you, Frederick.  I think that was extremely well put :-)
On Aug 17, 2013 8:53 PM, "Frederik Ramm" <frede...@remote.org> wrote:

> Pieren,
>
>  But I was extremetely surprise to see "twitter" and "facebook" after the
>> save action. Is OSM still an open data project mainly driven by open
>> source applications ? Are we really moving to the commercial side of the
>> internet ? I have no words to express my shock (I have but it would
>> censored).
>>
>
> Like you, I am very critical of "data silos" like Facebook, and I find it
> sad that so many people un-thinkingly embrace such proprietary platforms.
>
> I think that as an open project, we must be very careful not to endorse
> these platforms - under no circumstances should we send out the message
> that you can be a better mapper if you sign up to Facebook.
>
> But at the same time it is not for us to re-educate people. Facebook and
> other similar platforms are an important part in the social life of many
> people nowadays - in some countries, there's more OSM activity on Facebook
> than there is on the national OSM mailing list, and all that without our
> involvement.
>
> While making sure not to *endorse* proprietary social platforms, at the
> same time we should respect the decision of those who want to use them, and
> we shouldn't make it artifically hard for these users to include OSM in
> their "social platform life".
>
> It is a difficult balance to strike but it is something that requires a
> nuanced view. Freedom and openness also means that people have the freedom
> to use Facebook.
>
> (And yes, the issue tends to be viewed with less ideological weight on the
> other side of the Atlantic. Then again, I believe that Potlatch 1 also had
> a "post my edit on Twitter" link?)
>
> Bye
> Frederik
>
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