Sometimes it almost looks like some people here are afraid of new users.

I think it is correct to assume that they will make mistakes in the
beginning but also that they join the project to add new data. If they grow
to be seasoned mappers the benefits of having new users will outweigh the
inconvenience of occasionally having to correct some mistakes.

If iD can help with this then I say: let's make it easier for new people to
join and edit the map instead of being afraid they will mess up some data.

A better way of preventing mistakes is to prevent first edits being a
lonely experience and to increase interaction with local communities
instead of making editors more complicated.

Met vriendelijke groeten,
Best regards,

Ben Abelshausen
http://twitter.com/XIVK

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Pieren <pier...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > A better handling
> > of the SAVE cycle might suffice in a lot of cases, rather than a pop-up
> for
> > each delete? So many nodes will be deleted from the live map ... did you
> > really mean to do that?
>
> I think we speak here about newcomers deletings elements 'by
> accident'. This happened with the older editors as well. Pure
> vandalism is not prevented by a pop-up or 2 clicks instead of one. And
> when people have been contacted for their damages, these contributors
> explained often that they simply did not realize that their changes
> went to the real database. That's why imho, a pop-up showed only one
> time on the first save action warning that this is modifying the real
> map data would be sufficient.
>
> Pieren
>
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