Hi Simon,
      
      The well known German company Lufthansa Technik offers different
      training courses in the domain of drones [1], including the excellent 
basic
      free online course (Kostenlose Basisschulung). After this course
      one may try to pass an online exam and receive a certificate. I
      passed this exam, and here is how this certificate looks like [2].
      
      There are certainly understandable limitations for unmanned
      aircraft usage for numerous good reasons. However, there are
      usually mechanisms of getting a permission for a certain flight
      mission. The authorities take into account the aircraft type,
      weight, characteristics, safety record, pilot's qualification,
      timing, purpose, etc. 
      What is important to realize is that by doing a work in the
      airspace one becomes an integral part of the aviation. And there
      are certain rules in the aviation which are to be studied and  followed.
If there is a serious organized approach, I do not think that it is 
impossible that a silent electric mapping glider with the weight of 1 or
 2 kilograms could be allowed to fly over urban areas at the altitude of
 about 100 meters early in the morning, from time to time.
      For those who know German language the Lufthansa Technik online
      training course would be a good starting point. I takes just
      several hours to complete.
      
      [1] https://www.safe-drone.com/de/
      [2]
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11H1J-uZ1Ym8CPq45W1-ZH9uxGlFtdjzo/view?usp=sharing
      
      Best regards,
      O.
      
      On 03.06.18 19:14, Simon Poole wrote:
    
    
      
      
      
      
      
Am 03.06.2018 um 12:14 schrieb
        Florian Lohoff:
      
      
        
On Sat, Jun 02, 2018 at 12:03:04PM -0400, john whelan wrote:
        
          
I think one problem with drones is they need special permission or there
are rules about who and where they can be operated in many parts of the
world.  Some are capable of cm accuracy but does OpenStreetMap benefit from
this?
        
        
I'd explicitly exclude the legal aspects. Yes - Its complicated.
      
      Actually in Germany it is really simple from a legal pov: you
      can't fly (in a practical sense of the word) anywhere that is
      remotely interesting for OSM.
      
      Unluckily: no smilies.
      
      Simon
      
      
        
Its not the accuracy i am aiming for - in Germany at least in most areas
have pretty good Aerials. The problem is that those images are from the
public sector and it will take up to 5 years for them to be
accessible/available.
I am aiming for lower latency ;) You see a new development area and
it'll take up to 5 years to be able to add houses etc. So it would
be nice to take aerials every 6 Months of those areas and follow the
build up of new houses.
Flo
        
        
        
        
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