No worries – I have sent an email to eddie.mo...@cyca.com.au <mailto:eddie.mo...@cyca.com.au> ; genmana...@ryct.org.au <mailto:genmana...@ryct.org.au> and we will see what they say.
The map looks to be from OpenMapTiles <https://openmaptiles.com/> from what I can determine Cheers - Phil From: Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com> Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2019 8:38 PM Cc: 'OpenStreetMap talk mailing list' <talk@openstreetmap.org> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update "Is one click still a lack of attribution?", no but it is almost certainly an insufficient attribution. ODBL requires attribution to not be hidden. To quote ODBL it must be "reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses, views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database (...) and that it is available under this License" I think that this kind of "attribution" as used by Windy.com (that seems to be source of map embedded on this page) is in a clear violation of this requirement. 26 Dec 2019, 06:17 by p...@wyatt-family.com <mailto:p...@wyatt-family.com> : So how about this map? Is one click still a lack of attribution? https://www.rolexsydneyhobart.com/tracker/ From: Nuno Caldeira <nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com <mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, 26 December 2019 6:17 AM To: · Michael Medina <recycleore...@gmail.com <mailto:recycleore...@gmail.com> > Cc: OpenStreetMap talk mailing list <talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update doesn't surprise me. check this https://docs.mapbox.com/mapbox-gl-js/example/attribution-position/ plenty of space for visible attribution, well mapbox attribution is not hidden under an "i". I have reported another client of theirs that I have reached out to ask for attribution, which they understood, but still haven't fixed it. let's see if mapbox is in good will. On Wed, 25 Dec 2019, 17:20 · Michael Medina, <recycleore...@gmail.com <mailto:recycleore...@gmail.com> > wrote: As a native English speaker this reads as complete stonewalling on Mapbox’s part. I don’t know why OSM doesn’t just file a DMCA complaint against Mapbox or deny them access. The OSM board should also not have to go through the regular help channel to get answers. Mapbox should escalate this issue to their top administrators. I know the board likes to play nice, but Mapbox isn’t playing nice so no reason to as far as I can tell. 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Re: [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update (Nuno Caldeira) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2019 17:52:53 +0000 From: Nuno Caldeira <nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com <mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com> > To: Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@tutanota.com <mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com> > Cc: joost schouppe <joost.schou...@gmail.com <mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com> >, OSMF Talk <osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org <mailto:osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org> >, OpenStreetMap talk mailing list <talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Attribution guideline status update Message-ID: <ea8605f7-ac7d-040e-c38a-f80c2cbc8...@gmail.com <mailto:ea8605f7-ac7d-040e-c38a-f80c2cbc8...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" Hi Mateusz, They don't. Here's all my email exchange with them from October 2018, yes _*2018*_. it's more than enough with evidence and time to be fixed. https://drive.google.com/file/d/110XubCe0kd2HNtbqXS7U_vr44xyieaSt/view?usp=sharing On 24/12/2019 07:08, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Have they responded with anything > (except automatic reply) ? > > Is there an assigned issue id? > > > 23 Dec 2019, 21:32 by nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com > <mailto:nunocapelocalde...@gmail.com> : > > I sent this situation to Mapbox 10 months ago. > > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019, 17:00 joost schouppe, > <joost.schou...@gmail.com <mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com> > <mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com <mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com> >> wrote: > > > As an xmas bonus, here's another Facebook company (via > Mapbox), Snapchat that is using OSM without attribution > requirements (funnily there's plenty of space for a > reasonable and visible calculated mapbox logo and text). > They probably don't know, nor that they have been asked to > comply over a year ago, nor have agreed with the license > in every aspect of it when stated using OSM data, nor read > Mapbox TOS, or Mapbox been informed on these repeated > offenders, nor read the multiples reports in mailing > lists, nor that they had a employee that ran for OSMF board. > > https://map.snapchat.com/ > > Let's continue to be hypocrites and pretend nothing is > going on for over a year with these two companies that are > corporate members of OSMF and should be the first ones to > give examples. Enough with excuses. > > > The Snapchat case is a pretty clear example of how not to do > things. If there's space for Mapbox, there's space for > OpenStreetMap. But I don't think Snapchat has anything to do > with Facebook. > > Phil, I hope you contacted them directly and not through Facebook. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20191224/e4cbcf8f/attachment.htm> ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ------------------------------ End of talk Digest, Vol 184, Issue 39 ************************************* _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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