> - for continents, oceans, poles, and seas bordering any state, I will
completely remove this marker.

I'm almost certain that this translation is wrong. It doesn't make sense.

Could you check the correct translation of "por kontinentoj, oceanoj,
polusoj kaj maroj kiuj apudas al neniu lando, tute forigi tiun ĉi
etikedon."

Does this mean "... NOT bordering any country"? That's what Google
translate suggests: " for continents, oceans, poles and seas that are
next to none country, completely remove this tag."

(Still wrong but at least I can understand it... That's the problem
with relying on automated translation software... it doesn't work
well.)

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 2/18/20, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since this issue is somewhat controversial, it would be best to create
> a proposal page to suggest the proper way to tag continents, oceans
> and seas - these tags were never formally discussed, and have some
> problems.
>
> Also, the correct way to propose automatically changing a large number
> of features is to follow the "Automated Edits code of conduct":
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
>
> This includes "systematic edits to the database by other means without
> consideration of each change. This policy also applies to substantial
> changes made using 'find and replace' or similar functions within
> standard editors such as JOSM" - so I believe this would be the case
> for editing all the seas and oceans.
>
> "You should normally document your proposed edit at an
> English-language wiki page named "Automated edits/username" (where
> username is the OSM user name of the account that you will be using to
> perform the edits - think about this now so that you don't have to
> rename the page later), and add it to Category:Automated edits log.
>
> Your documentation should state:
>
> Who is making the change (preferably your real name and how to contact
> you, ideally e-mail address)
> Your motivation for making the change and why it is important
> A detailed description of the algorithm you will use to decide which
> objects are changed how
> Information about any consultation that you have conducted, with links
> to mailing list/forum posts or Wiki discussion pages
> When the change was made, or how frequently it is going to be repeated
> Information on how to "opt out"
>
> Please read the rest of the information at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
> prior to proceeding.
>
> (FYI, I am personally in favor of removing the English name=* tags for
> continents and oceans, and perhaps for many of the seas, but it's
> important to get consensus about a major edit like this)
>
> - Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On 2/18/20, Tomek <to...@disroot.org> wrote:
>> W dniu 20-02-15 o 19:17, Steve Doerr pisze:
>>> On 15/02/2020 17:35, Tomek wrote:
>>>> - for continents, oceans, poles, and seas bordering any state, I will
>>>> completely remove this marker.
>>>
>>> Don't do that. The golden rule should be: never remove another
>>> mapper's contribution unless it's incontrovertibly wrong.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>> EO
>> Mi provas provi ke la etikedo “name” por tiuj objektoj estas erara.
>>
>> Objekto 1:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jardin_El_Capricho_Bench_at_Plaza_de_los_Emperadores.jpg
>> Benko kun neniu skribaĵo, mapigita en OSM kiel:
>> amenity=bench
>> name=Bench
>> Ĉu estas ĝuste forigi la etikedon “name” laŭ la regulo mi “mi mapigas
>> tion, kion estas sur la tero”?
>>
>> Objekto 2:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Turquoise_Water.jpg
>> Akvo, certege neniu skribaĵo indikanta ĝian nomon.
>> Loka nomo: neniu, ĉar neniu loĝas tie.
>> Mapigita en OSM kiel:
>> place=ocean
>> name=Pacific Ocean
>> Sed poloj nomas ĝin “Ocean Spokojny”, franclingvanoj “Océan Pacifique”,
>> do estus ĝuste aldoni la etikedojn name:pl, name:fr, ktp.
>> Ĉu estas ĝuste forigi la etikedon “name” laŭ la sama regulo?
>>
>>
>> EN (machine translation)
>> I'm trying to prove that the tag "name" for those objects is wrong.
>>
>> Object 1:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jardin_El_Capricho_Bench_at_Plaza_de_los_Emperadores.jpg
>> Bench with no writing, mapped to OSM as:
>> amenity = bench
>> name = Bench
>> Is it right to remove the label "name" according to the "I'm mapping
>> what's on the ground" rule?
>>
>> Object 2:
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Turquoise_Water.jpg
>> Water, certainly no writing indicating its name.
>> Local name: nobody, because nobody lives there.
>> Mapped in OSM as:
>> place = ocean
>> name = Pacific Ocean
>> But Poles call it "Ocean Spokojny", French-speaking "Océan Pacifique",
>> so it would be fair to add the tags name:pl, name:fr, etc.
>> Is it OK to remove the "name" tag according to the same rule?
>>
>>
>>
>> W dniu 20-02-16 o 12:44, Florimond Berthoux pisze:
>>>
>>>     - for continents, oceans, poles, and seas bordering any state, I
>>> will
>>>     completely remove this marker.
>>>
>>>
>>> Warning, without giving my opinion, I don't know all involvements.
>>> Data should not be lost!
>> EO
>> Neniuj datumoj perdiĝos, la angla nomo estos en la etikedo “name:en”!
>> EN
>> No data will be lost, the English name will be labeled "name:en"!
>> FR
>> Aucune donnée ne sera perdue, le nom anglais sera étiqueté "name:en"!
>>
>

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