Hello,

You are definitely NOT speaking out of turn James.  This is the kind  
of stuff we really want.  We really would welcome contributions.   
Taverna is an open source project, we (Manchester) might be the main  
developers but we are not a closed community and would love to hear  
from people who would like to contribute code.  This is something we  
have been talking about a lot, for whatever reason there just has not  
been as much community involvement as we would like recently.  Maybe  
we turned a bit inward during the T2 development and if that is the  
case then please accept our apologies.  However, we now have a new,  
cleaned and fully working code base on google code (see previous  
emails) and it is looking forward to your contributions.  Check out  
the T2 JIRA list for issues and see if there is something there that  
interests you or suggest something completely different.  With  
community involvement we could really take Taverna to a whole new level.

Cheers,

Ian

Ian Dunlop
myGrid team
School of Computer Science
University of Manchester



On 24 Mar 2009, at 00:50, James Howison wrote:

>
> On 23 Mar 2009, at 6:56 AM, Alan Williams wrote:
>
>> Marco Roos wrote:
>>> Hello user/hacker of T2,
>>
>> Hello Marco,
>>
>>> I would like to raise one of the priorities on the T2 to do list.
>>> Please
>>> respond to this e-mail if you find the following as much a critical
>>> bottleneck as I do. It is about the T2 input window closing after
>>> each
>>> workflow run.
>>
>> This is one of the changes that is planned for Taverna 2.1  The run
>> dialog will be improved (including not losing previous values) whilst
>> retaining the list-depth checking of Taverna 2.
>>
>> Longer term we are looking at other ways of improving the run dialog
>> e.g. by taking values from the stored provenance of previous (not
>> immediately previous) runs, or automatically populating the data
>> values
>> based upon the type of the data.
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> Many thanks!
>>> Marco.
>>
>> Alan
>
> Has the Taverna team considered kinda altering its standard response
> to questions like this, so to build an open source community?  What I
> mean is that if I see a response that says "It's coming in 2.x" then I
> think, ok I guess I'll wait for it (while gradually becoming more
> disillusioned).  I felt that a lot in the wait for T2 itself.
>
> OTOH, if I see a response that says, "hey, great idea, I think one
> would have to make some changes to the Foo class <link to SVN>" then
> maybe, just maybe, I'll roll up my sleeves and have a bash at it.  A
> little hand-holding through the code sometimes goes a long way (on
> taverna-hackers, of course!). No guarantees, of course, but that's
> open source for you.
>
> Whether the project accepted such a patch would be a different
> question, of course, and that discussion is always easier once the
> code in hand.
>
> But FWIW, my point is that roadmaps are sometimes counter-intuitively
> demotivating to a community, if you are looking for contribution...
>
> I'm not following taverna-hackers so perhaps I'm speaking out of turn
> here, just a thought :)
>
> Cheers,
> James
>
>
>
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