Hello,

Sorry everyone about jumping the gun on the google code move.  It is  
not quite ready to go public yet but will be very soon when the docs  
are finished (plus a final code merge from the CVS). Here is a wiki  
page about it all:

http://www.mygrid.org.uk/dev/wiki/display/developer/Taverna%2Bsource%2Bcode

and the repository:

http://taverna.googlecode.com/svn/


Cheers,

Ian

Ian Dunlop
myGrid team
School of Computer Science
University of Manchester



On 24 Mar 2009, at 13:05, Tom Oinn wrote:

> Ian Dunlop wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> You are definitely NOT speaking out of turn James.  This is the kind
>> of stuff we really want.  We really would welcome contributions.
>> Taverna is an open source project, we (Manchester) might be the main
>> developers but we are not a closed community
>
> Actually yes you are. Maybe not technically but having been  
> unsubscribed
> from the mygrid internal list since I left it's striking how little of
> the process escapes your office. There is *no* discussion between the
> devs on the mailing lists in the last few months regarding the  
> design or
> implementation of the code. I'm not counting responses to questions,
> those should happen as a matter of course, I'm talking about an open  
> and
> ongoing discussion about what you're building.
>
> It's not rocket science - you move from a project spread across many
> sites to a project with all the developers in a room together, most of
> the discussion moves to an internal (unarchived) mailing list and  
> voila,
> closed community. There's more to being an open source project than
> having an open source license, or at least there should be.
>
> Seriously - if you don't believe me get someone in Manchester to unsub
> from the mygrid list, not come into work for a couple of weeks and not
> talk to the other devs face to face or on private email and tell me  
> how
> well that person feels in touch with the project. I struggled with  
> this
> for the last year and for someone who's only access to the development
> process is this list it's just not working.
>
>> and would love to hear
>> from people who would like to contribute code.  This is something we
>> have been talking about a lot, for whatever reason there just has not
>> been as much community involvement as we would like recently.  Maybe
>> we turned a bit inward during the T2 development and if that is the
>> case then please accept our apologies.  However, we now have a new,
>> cleaned and fully working code base on google code (see previous
>> emails)
>
> Um, which previous emails would these be? The last one in your*  
> archive
> that mentions google code is on the user list (um...) last October. If
> we've changed repositories I'd really quite like to know, I have a  
> bunch
> of fixes here (not that I can check them in without agreeing to a CLA
> I'm not prepared to agree with, but at least I can get the new  
> code...)
>
> Tom
>
> *your rather than our as I seem to have been censored from the mygrid
> website ;) I mean, come on guys, don't I even get a mention in the
> 'former members' section? I did write most of the thing!
>
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