On Sun, 8 May 2011 14:54:09 +0200, Marek Mikus wrote:

>RFC can not contain anything what any developer implements and there is no
>reason to remove feature which exists 10 years, BTW it is turned off by
>default.

Yes, and 10 years ago headers were named "kludges".

There is even less reason to keep this "feature" in. All it does is
cause confusion. Nothing more.

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>again this is configurable by macro, so user can decide when use this
>feature.

The question is: why would anyone want to use it? Like the first
"feature" I mentioned it doesn't serve any purpose whatsoever, and it
is a possible source of confusion.

>> - Message-ID url's. TB! uses <mid:localpart@server>, which is useless
>> in other mail clients.

>false, it is not used in headers.

I did not mention headers (kludges). It's some kind of URL, only
useful for fellow Beta! users. In Forte Agent I can doubleclick on a
Message-ID anywhere in the message and it finds the correct message.
If I want to search for a malformed Beta! specific "Message URL" I
have to open it in an editor and edit it. It's completely useless!

Ritlabs should have implemented a method like Agent uses in the first
place, instead of "inventing" its own strange workaround. 

>And if other clients does not support it, this is reason to remove it from
>TB? Why??

Because it adds useless complexity into a mail client that's already
bloated and bug-ridden. Ritlabs should grab any opportunity to remove
crappy, bug-prone and/or idiosyncratic uselesness from the code in
order to make it leaner, meaner and easier to use and maintain.

But they won't do that. 

>> It's these and other "features" like mugshots and betamoticons that
>> lead me to believe that Beta! developers and chronical beta! list
>> habituals alike are living in a world of their own and are impervious
>> and hostile towards input from outside. Like I said before: it just
>> behaves like some kind of sect.

>You should comment something You understand and know about, somebody could
>call You stupid. As I see, You are here to create flames only, You should
>use another list instead. Thank You

And thank you too for proving my point. Imperviousness, hostility and
obliviousness regarding things that really matter. You say I am
dropping flame-bait, I say I am just speaking the (uneasy) truth.

Arjan
-- 
I am here to lose control

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