Hello Maxim, On Monday, August 30, 2004 you wrote: >>>Mhhh, where is the "whole bunch" of new things from v1 to V2? > Just compare v1.0 and v2.0 ;-)
No, no, no. When we found out that version 2.0 doesn't bring too many new features (except for IMAP, which is of no use for me, and anyway is not finished till now) we were told to think of a recent addictions to 1.x as of what was to appear in 2.x, but was introduced earlier to our benefit. And we were also promised many new things for 2.x series (customizable UI and NFS being just two examples). This is only why many of us registered (and also because of some sort of loyalty feeling, which is now gone). What we see right now is that virtually nothing that was promised for 2.x is finished (not only features introduced in 2.0, but also the ones that were to be included in this series). Even very old bugs are still in place and we have the new ones (serious ones!) unfixed. This is not a situation when majority of users consider another payment justified. You've not fulfilled what you promised for 2.x and you expect us to re-register now only based on what you promise again? I'm sorry, but Ritlabs are not credible anymore. And also you personally -- Stefan and Max -- you are no longer considered credible persons by me. It turns out you only want to lay your hands on our money and not give anything in exchange. I'm wondering. Aren't you ashamed that you relay on work of so many people that do product support in many languages sometimes even as volunteers? Many people were surprised to see how well that worked, and that such a community is possible for a fully commercial product (it is common in open-source societies). And yet it worked for The Bat! -- even though it's a commercial application. That was because of users' enthusiasm and trust in RIT's wisdom. No more. There's more. In countries like Poland, where software piracy is an obvious thing, and a private person that has a legal copy of Windows is considered an eccentric, it was also normal for users to always search and ask for cracks. At the beginning also for TB!. And yet TB! was one of the first applications that managed to plant this thought in users' minds: "cracking is unfair". You could ask for many cracks on polish usenet, but should you ask for a crack for TB! you would be given one bloody hell. And how did that start? I remember that at some time people active in pl.comp.mail usenet list had a discussion after another crack request for The Bat. During the discussion many points were made about Stefan's and Max's good attitude, about them being helpful and doing a great job. The conclusion was more or less that it wouldn't be fair to them if we continued to tolerate cracking. We just couldn't do this to Stef and Max. This was the naive beginning, over time this personal phenomenon has started to fade and now is gone. A pity. Sounding harsh, but that's the way it looks to me. Looking back into TB's history I feel like something bad happened to Ritlabs sometime about 1.60 beta cycle and continues -- every new move of the company is less and less understandable for the audience. Should RIT's management be sent back to school? Whatever. Regarding registration -- I shall only register when I see new features actually introduced (and finished -- so that they are relatively bugless). Of course this doesn't apply to completely customizable UI, since it was promised for 2.x and I already have paid for it. Have a good day everybody, I'm gonna have a good night right now. Let's see what the next day brings. ;/ BTW, should anyone ask -- I've been using TB since version 0.9 (it didn't even have charset switching, but defaulted to us-ascii or something like that), and at the very beginning I didn't register -- I did so only around version 1.2x or 1.3x. But I feel I have paid my debts in this field, among others by providing unofficial support for polish users for some time (not anymore though). So I've been around for quite a time, even though there were plenty of people more active here, than I ever was. :P -- / Krzysztof Trybowski pgp 0xE0F7733B /--/ To get my pgp key, put / / www.trybik.jest.okey.pl GG 1458144 /--/ "send_key" in subject. /_ :Krzysztof_Trybowski: Using The Bat! 3.0 Beta/1 under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 3.00 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
