Hello Vilius,

On Wed, 16 May 2007 19:01:46 +0300 GMT (16/05/2007, 23:01 +0700 GMT),
Vilius Šumskas wrote:

>> So, many people press YES YES ES. So what? What if *I* read the
>> messages? Does the email client have to nanny me because your
>> grandmother doesn't read them?

VŠ> Does my grandmother have to understand the possible danger of
VŠ> accepting such certificate?

No. She will probably use another mail client, which doesn't block
her. But I do understand the possible danger. And I would like to use
TB!.

VŠ> I can understand your will to be free and make your own choices,
VŠ> but you seem don't understand that there are thousands of people
VŠ> around the world that uses technology (e.g. TB!) just like a tool.

I do understand that. And I use it as a tool, to get my emails. TB!
might prevent me from that basic use.

VŠ> They don't care and should not care about technological details
VŠ> how email works. They just want to send and recieve mail, it's our
VŠ> (admins) job to make it work. And server with expired cert just
VŠ> shows how incompetent the admin is. He don't care about his users.

Correct. So with a superior email client, I expect to be able to
override his stupidity, if I so choose.

VŠ> He even not managed to set validity period of certificate for
VŠ> example for 999 years (if I remember the maximum correctly).

There are incompetent sysads around, no doubt. Explain again why I
should not be able to override their mistake? Will I blow the
internet, or is it only my own system that only I am responsible for?

Please stop protecting me from myself. I'm not that stupid that I need
an email client to nanny me.

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

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und ausatmen. Das ermuedet rasch. *
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