4/16/2020 10:41 AM Hi Thomas,
On 4/15/2020 Thomas Fernandez wrote: TF> Hello Paul, TF> On Wed, 15 Apr 2020 11:17:14 -0400 GMT (15-Apr-20, 22:17 +0700 GMT), TF> Paul Van Noord wrote: >>>>> There will have been a reason for that, don't you think? >>>> Isn't the Beta usually taken down when Ritlabs issues a new Beta >>>> or release version? TF>>> That's correct. It has become useless, as any bugs found should not be TF>>> distributed any more. That's the whole idea of beta testing. >> There have been multiple occasions in the past where a given beta caused >> problems for me requiring me to go to a previous version. This is why I >> keep copies of all acceptable betas. "Latest and greatest" are not >> synonymous! TF> Yes, beta versions can have problems, that's why users of beta TF> versions are called beta testers, and they participate in the beta TF> forum (or mailing list, as it is in the case of TheBat) and report TF> back. There is never a reason for someone who is not a beta tester to TF> download any beta version. TF> Once the release version is out, there is no need to revert back to a TF> beta version. TF> Otherwise, there would be something fundamentally wrong with the beta TF> process. I'm not saying saying this never happens in the world, I am TF> just saying it would be highly unusual if you have to revert back from TF> a release version to a beta version to make have a better version. I have been a TB user for 32 years. I have been a beta tester for at least 12 years. Perhaps my TB experience exceeds your experience. I have clients all over the world. I fail to appreciate someone of lesser experience telling me the "facts". A closed mind slams the door shut on ability to learn. My methods have proven their value in the test of time and experience for me and my clients. Since I highly customize the TB ui for each client. It is absurd that a release of a MSI would be published with this glaring defect. It forced me back to a beta where Toolbar Customization worked as it did for many years! - -- Paul The Bat! v.9.1.12 on Windows 7 Pro 64 bit 6.1.7600 No IMAP No OTFE ________________________________________________ Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

