DH> You already have the beta list. IMPOV, "the more in-depth type of
DH> discussions" have NOT been "overwhelming TBUDL". If I had more time,
DH> I'd get deeper into myself and don't want to have to join another
DH> list in order to get "in depth" info. No one is forced to read all
DH> of any post. Some readers may skip the most basic items (unless they
DH> care to help), while others may engage in or color code / flag for later
DH> reference, any items that get into enough detail to make them
DH> interesting. I say, leave it as is.
I have to disagree - I am a long term subscriber to this list but am
just a simple home user looking for the occasional tip to make my life
easier. I do find them here but I have to wade through a huge amount
of stuff which is often almost bizarrely obscure or gone into in a
depth way beyond that which I need. I've often had to search through
the archive to understand the answer, let alone the questions!
There are also a few regular posters who occasionally seem to adopt a
'this is my club' attitude to the group. This seems to lead to the
slapping down of simple newbie questions as being of the 'seen it,
done it, got the t-shirt, now go away and leave this group for the big
boys' category. This makes posting of queries about basic functions
quite intimidating. I can imagine just how newbies (a derogative term
in itself, to set aside 'them' from 'us') feel when they see the list
articles for the first time.
DH> Most of the beginners issues could probably be taken care via the
DH> FAQ or the new help file (which I haven't seen), but TBUDL's capable
DH> of handling any issue relating to finished releases.
The problem with (any) Help file is that in searching it, you need to
know the basics in the first place. Here's something from the current
one in looking up message filters:
"It is possible to use Regular Expressions as signal strings in the
message filters. In a filter definition in the Sorting Office
dialogue, select the �Options� tab and tick the �Regular expressions�
checkbox. Note that ALL signal strings of the filter will be treated
as regular expressions so make sure that they all are compliant with
the syntax of Regular Expressions."
Of course, silly me. No doubt it is bread and butter to many
of you but this kind of thing is rather difficult when you're doing it
just once to set the program up rather than administering a system
where it is a routine day in, day out task. I just set up all my
filters from guesswork until they worked ok. There's an awful lot more
which no doubt makes the Bat extremely powerful but I hope it
accommodates more than just power users. I'm all for another
list!
John Rainer
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