Hello Dierk,

On Monday, April 8, 2002 at 4:59:06 PM you wrote in
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DH> With this definition - technically quite correct, I know - no
DH> programme is anything else but a file manager. I venture to say that
DH> even the most basic (no pun intended) programming language (low-level
DH> machine linguistics) is under your definition a file manager, copying
DH> and restructuring the smallest possible files (data) into different
DH> memory allocations.

Here I would not tend to agree, and this even was not my intention to
express :-) Files are something 'permanent' for me, while 'memory in
general' is to transient for me to stretch my 'definition of managing file'
for including programming in general too. :-)

DH> We as users have a very different outlook on an application. Ask any
DH> woman - am I glad it was Yuki bringing this up - about how she
DH> perceives a computer. It will be very different from your PoV. It is
DH> there to handle certain everyday tasks, just in another medium.
                                                            [1]
DH> Instead of writing up a letter on paper, putting it in an envelope,
DH> stamping it and taking it to a postbox, you use TB! to write to
DH> someone.

OK ... seems I really got misunderstood: I never intended to say 'Hey,
you're using only a different kind of file manager!', but more 'Hey, for me
it's technically not this different using the one or the other, just in
'handled data' and goal I'M going for' (sending electronical mail
_remotely_ vs. handling local data).

DH> Maybe a bit too pragmatic for most men - always asking for "more
DH> power, huff, huff" - but nevertheless right: Computers and especially
DH> applications* are tools.

Ahhh ... I'm not that kind of 'more power ...' freak. I like it if this
stuff saves me time when doing things, therefore I'm a fan of 'fast enough
to be efficient and not a waste of time', but it has not to be always the
'state of the art' computer for doing all days work :-)

My intention when writing my replies was to show the positives about
something like 'unique behavior when solving different problems'.
The comparison between file systems and e-mail-client came up only because
I remembered the how file structures are handled and I took 'Windows
Explorer' as one example. When Yuki stated these two thing are not about to
compare I just wanted to show: they can. It's not meant to be '_the_
absolute POV' :-)

To make myself coming to an end: I like it if application have some basics
in common. And opening a folder when it is double clicked falls out of
'standard' for me :-) While '<Ctrl>+<Double Click>' is the same way
Explorer behaves when you've set it to open all folders in same window
normally (try it yourself with an Explorer-windows without folder pane :-) ).

Ciao Pit

[1]: thanks for clarifying :-) 'til know I seriously though computers are
     there to solve problems we wouldn't have without them *SCNR* *GD&R*
-- 
Regards
Peter Palmreuther                            mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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