Hi Alto,

On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 10:11 +0200, you wrote:
> Guten Tag Bob Riley,

> > Then at the end of the article, it says this about TB!:
> > "There are currently no known troubleshooting issues with this client."

I was merely quoting the above from the fastmail.fm mail client setup:
http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/imap/thebat.htm

On the above page is this:
"The Bat! is an excellent POP client, but its IMAP support is currently
extremely limited. If you use The Bat! you will not have access to many
IMAP features; The Bat! treats IMAP servers much like POP servers, so it
does not benefit from IMAP's extra capabilities."

Then, after the setup instructions, it says this:
"There are currently no known troubleshooting issues with this client."

In response, you wrote:
> You know that this is not true. TheBat IMAP _is_ a troubleshooting
> issue to begin with. Even the developers admit that the system is
> rotten from the core, meaning they can't work to fix it, but need to
> exchange it completely.

It looks to me as though the fastmail site largely agrees with you,
apart from the troubleshooting statement. I am not qualified to judge
the above.  Because of what I have heard from quite a few people on this
list and at TBBeta, I had earlier decided not to use TB for my IMAP
mailer for Gmail.  I have tried Evolution (because it is standard in
Ubuntu Linux and is now, finally, available in Windows, and both
operating systems are on my pc) and it works beautifully.  However, it
is much slower in starting up in Windows than it is in Linux.  I also
tried Mulberry in Windows, but I didn't like the interface, and there
are so many options that for me it wasn't as convenient to use as
Evolution, so I removed it.  I would love to use TB for IMAP but won't
until you more knowledgeable people say TB is very practical in IMAP.  I
think I have already mentioned that Thunderbird does well in IMAP.  I
use it for a community volunteer organization's Gmail IMAP account.
> 
> If you define "troubleshooting issue" as "workaround to use it", then
> I apologize and agree that there aren't any. But the way the above
> line is worded an unknowing visitor might deduce that TheBat's IMAP
> would actually be - well, usable.

I defer to greater knowledge, here, and have appreciated your sharing
your experience with TB as an IMAP mailer.  I notice that the "no
troubleshooting issues" statement appears after many of their
instructions about setting up the various IMAP mail programs, which are
listed here:
http://www.fastmail.fm/docs/faqparts/ExternalMail.htm#ExternalAccess

As you can imagine, I have done internet searches for "best IMAP email
programs," and the ones that often appear are Mulberry (Windows only, I
think), Evolution and Thunderbird.  Outlook doesn't score very high, nor
does Pegasus (my older POP favorite for years), nor The Bat!, or its
otherwise excellent competitor, Pocomail:
http://email.about.com/cs/winclientreviews/gr/pocomail.htm

Have a great day, everyone.

Bob Riley



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