Hi, Emmanuel,
On 12/4/2011 9:55 AM, Emmanuel Lochin wrote:
> On 4 December 2011 18:40, Joe Touch<[email protected]> wrote:
>> Basic page charges in IEEE transactions are optional. Overlength charges
>> can be manditory, but then the author can always shorten the paper to
>> fit the expected length and avoid that fee. See the following, Sec VI:
>> http://www.ieee.org/portal/cms_docs/pubs/transactions/auinfo03.pdf
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> I think this is definitely not easy to shorten a paper when after one
> or two rounds of reviews, the reviewers explicitly request
> measurements or anything else to be accepted.
This is a discussion that you should have with the editor, or the EIC if
the editor cannot resolve. Ultimately, the journal has a page limit, and
if they are suggesting that the paper be longer than the limit then they
have an obligation to either suggest how to reduce the length or provide
an exception for the page charges.
If you try this and fail, then you should contact the IEEE Director of
Publications. I don't see how the journal can *require* overlength under
the current guidelines.
However, you started with a paper that was already overlength, which
certainly did not help the situation.
> I don't know how to
> prune a given number of pages to avoid fees in that case without
> upsetting the reviewers.
FWIW, it is the editor's job to help you figure that out. You are
required to satisfy the editor's decisions, not the reviewers (esp.
since the reviewers advice can be contradictory).
> Furthermore, if you look at the table of
> contents of transactions, there are many papers above 8 pages.What is
> the rationale of 8 pages when most of conferences ask for this length
> ? Why a scientific contribution should be less than 8 pages ?
That is a discussion you should have with the Director of Publications.
These decisions are made in committee, and the meetings are open - as I
have noted to the list before. If you want to change the policies, then
lobby to have them changed.
> Furthermore in these 8 pages, the biography of the authors is taken
> into account, so with the biblio, it remains only 6 pages for your
> contribution!
The EIC needs to take that into account when asking you to address the
reviewers' comments. Again, if they refuse to do so, then you should
contact the IEEE Director of Publications. But you need to ask the
editor and EIC to address this first.
> (at last but not least, you have to pay to access the
> IEEE library!)
That has no bearing on this discussion.
Joe (TCCC Chair)
>
> Regards
>
> Emmanuel
>
>> If you anyone has evidence to the contrary, please let me know so I can
>> report it to the IEEE.
>>
>> Joe (TCCC Chair)
>>
>> On 12/2/2011 2:16 PM, James P.G. Sterbenz wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2 Dec 2011, at 15:36, Emmanuel Lochin wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi James,
>>>>
>>>> This is the same for IEEE transactions to. I had to pay 1500 euros for 14
>>>> pages for Transactions on Multimedia. Much more expensive that this one ...
>>>
>>> I think with IEEE transactions it is recommended or optional, not required.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> James
>>>
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