On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Ted Hardie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for the correction, but I confess I'm still a little confused.  I
> understood in the room that you saw rough consensus on the list to go
> forward with both, based on the call that went to the list and ended on the
> 20th.  This was something Mirja and I both argued for, and the minutes note
> you saying "Martin: look at the mailing list. There is consensus about
> adopting both. There is tine to work on both."
>

This matches my understanding of the understanding of what happened
in the room and is confirmed by my review of the minutes.

-Ekr



> When I saw the message, I thought that you were confirming on the list
> that this was the way forward, but this message appears to re-open the
> question from the start.  I'd really rather we didn't start over again.
> Can we start with the sense of the room/previous list consensus instead,
> and look only to see if there is a groundswell of objection from those not
> in the room?
>
> I have not, mind you, looked at the recordings yet, and if you would like
> to before making a further adjustment, I'd certainly understand.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Martin Stiemerling <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> **Please use this CORRECTED version, as one option to choose from below
>> didn't make it into the original.****
>> Thanks to Erik Rescola for pointing this out to me directly.
>>
>> This point got lost on the mailing list, but it has been decided in the
>> WG session here at IETF-93 that there will be a Last Call for consensus
>> about which document of the below ones to take as starting point for the WG.
>>
>>
>> Here are the two drafts:
>> a) draft-rescorla-tcpinc-tls-option-03
>> b) draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt-03
>>
>> Please respond to the tcpinc wg mailing list until
>>
>>    July 31st, 2015
>>    1pm CEST
>>
>> on wether you prefer
>> - either draft a) or b)
>> - both drafts (a & b) as WG items
>> - or none
>>
>> to be accepted as WG item(s).
>>
>> Please write also your brief reasoning on why you made your choice.
>>
>> Please note that accepting a draft is not the end of working on the
>> technical content of the draft, but it is actually the starting point when
>> the WG has full change control about the content of the draft!
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>   Martin Stiemerling
>>   Transport Area Director
>>
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