On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Ted Hardie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Martin,
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Martin Stiemerling <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> ​
>>
>> This call is a simple procedural step:
>> There were hums in the session on whether to go for just a), just b), or
>> both. This call is simply to confirm the hums out of the WG session on the
>> list, no more.
>>
>> Everything out of the a WG meeting needs to be confirmed on the mailing
>> list. I do not think that anybody is disagreeing about this, right?
>>
>>
> ​Of course everything needs to be confirmed on the list, but I'm used to
> folks recording the consensus from the room as part of the call for
> confirmation.  I was a bit confused without that, because this looked like
> a restart of the discussion.  If we are agreed on what the result of the
> meeting was (that both are going to go forward for further work) and are
> confirming that, then I think my confusion is resolved now.
>

For reference, this is memorialized in Tero's mail from Tuesday:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tcpinc/current/msg00577.html

-Ekr

For final confirmation, do you wish to have those of us who were (probably
> over) vocal in the meeting to record our voices again here?
>
> regards,
>
> Ted​
>
>
>
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>   Martin
>>
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ted
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Martin Stiemerling <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Dear all,
>>>
>>>     **Please use this CORRECTED version, as one option to choose from
>>>     below didn't make it into the original.****
>>>     Thanks to Erik Rescola for pointing this out to me directly.
>>>
>>>     This point got lost on the mailing list, but it has been decided in
>>>     the WG session here at IETF-93 that there will be a Last Call for
>>>     consensus about which document of the below ones to take as starting
>>>     point for the WG.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Here are the two drafts:
>>>     a) draft-rescorla-tcpinc-tls-option-03
>>>     b) draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt-03
>>>
>>>     Please respond to the tcpinc wg mailing list until
>>>
>>>         July 31st, 2015
>>>         1pm CEST
>>>
>>>     on wether you prefer
>>>     - either draft a) or b)
>>>     - both drafts (a & b) as WG items
>>>     - or none
>>>
>>>     to be accepted as WG item(s).
>>>
>>>     Please write also your brief reasoning on why you made your choice.
>>>
>>>     Please note that accepting a draft is not the end of working on the
>>>     technical content of the draft, but it is actually the starting
>>>     point when the WG has full change control about the content of the
>>>     draft!
>>>
>>>
>>>     Regards,
>>>
>>>        Martin Stiemerling
>>>        Transport Area Director
>>>
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