Hi Eric,

Am 24.07.15 um 11:28 schrieb Eric Rescorla:

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Ted Hardie <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Martin,

    Thanks for the correction, but I confess I'm still a little
    confused.  I understood in the room that you saw rough consensus on
    the list to go forward with both, based on the call that went to the
    list and ended on the 20th.  This was something Mirja and I both
    argued for, and the minutes note you saying "Martin: look at the
    mailing list. There is consensus about adopting both. There is tine
    to work on both."


This matches my understanding of the understanding of what happened
in the room and is confirmed by my review of the minutes.


To make it again clear: Any call for consensus in a meeting has to be confirmed on the list. This is happening right now.

I do not believe that there is a doubt that the WG hummed for a), b), or adopting both, isn't it?

  Martin



-Ekr

    When I saw the message, I thought that you were confirming on the
    list that this was the way forward, but this message appears to
    re-open the question from the start.  I'd really rather we didn't
    start over again.  Can we start with the sense of the room/previous
    list consensus instead, and look only to see if there is a
    groundswell of objection from those not in the room?

    I have not, mind you, looked at the recordings yet, and if you would
    like to before making a further adjustment, I'd certainly understand.

    Thanks,

    Ted

    On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Martin Stiemerling
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


        Dear all,

        **Please use this CORRECTED version, as one option to choose
        from below didn't make it into the original.****
        Thanks to Erik Rescola for pointing this out to me directly.

        This point got lost on the mailing list, but it has been decided
        in the WG session here at IETF-93 that there will be a Last Call
        for consensus about which document of the below ones to take as
        starting point for the WG.


        Here are the two drafts:
        a) draft-rescorla-tcpinc-tls-option-03
        b) draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt-03

        Please respond to the tcpinc wg mailing list until

            July 31st, 2015
            1pm CEST

        on wether you prefer
        - either draft a) or b)
        - both drafts (a & b) as WG items
        - or none

        to be accepted as WG item(s).

        Please write also your brief reasoning on why you made your choice.

        Please note that accepting a draft is not the end of working on
        the technical content of the draft, but it is actually the
        starting point when the WG has full change control about the
        content of the draft!


        Regards,

           Martin Stiemerling
           Transport Area Director

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