Theo de Raadt, 09 Jul 2015 21:08:
> As a group (with me and others as the proxy) we do ask for companies
> to help fund us from time to time, and this benefits everyone as a
> result of the common advancements.  As for output, there is no
> discrimination as to their cause, because that is not our
> oversight/job.  The general guidelines for access to software is CLEAR
> in the licence.
> 
> Yet you clearly state that we should have some restrictive agenda, Mr.
> Do-Nothing-Except-State-Position.

i wrote no such thing in my email.  not. even. close.

it flatters me somewhat that you read so much into
my simple astonishment about a news item that does
in most geek circles provoke the response "no way,
hell froze over".

as a "leech", i am of course more than happy when
the project receives funding, no matter the source.

this whole tirade (including your private mails,
that leech etiquette forbids me to quote on an
open mailing list) comes off mildly amusing considering
you yourself foulmouthed a huge donour in the past
(hint hint us army money) and in turn they took their
ball and went home.  now that was damaging.
my email?  oh, please.  get a grip man.


> In essence, you are a loudmouth and a leech.

i am sorry that since i started using openbsd, i sent
its way only around 600 euros for releases, t-shirts,
hats, and mugs; not much perhaps, but i find that
windows users generally never reach this amount,
not by choice anyway.  i am also sorry that i couldn't
send more and better patches, or maintain more ports
than i do.  my contribution overall might not be much
(for whatever value of much), but a pure leech i am
definitely not, no matter how much you try to paint
me as one.  of course, by your logic all openbsd
users are leeches by definition.

maybe a non-leech community member is one that pays
your whole salary or what?


you can't have both: inviting people to contribute
"no matter how litle" to the project, and then turn
around and call them leeches.  that is not how a
community works, and sadly you could not learn that
even in 20+ years.

and the other bit, the "DO MORE FOR ME" one is getting
really really old and boring.  i never ever asked for
a feature for myself.  simple smooth operation of the
OS on all my gear is my ultimate goal, a goal every
single member of this community shares.  if you consider
bug reports "requests to do work for others", maybe
you should be running a closed commercial project.

-f
-- 
raising your voice does not reinforce your argument.

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