On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 02:47:31PM -0600, Bob Beck wrote: > Other verbiage aside guys - sorry Frantisek, I might not agree with > Theo's level of rancor, but No, Your statement for "all the wrong > reasons" > is insulting to all of us, and more developers should speak out about it.
Yep, what is entirely a good thing for OpenBSD is being used by conspiracy theorists to promote their own agenda. I certainly hope the paranoia of a few trolls here on the mailing lists doesn't deter future sponsors from contributing. -ml > > I will speak somewhat out of turn here, and tell you I know for a fact > because I have been witness to it that year, a donor (who I will not > name) offered the foundation to meet it's *ENTIRE FUNDRAISING GOAL* > for this 2015, the only condition was that they could brand the > OpenBSD Web pages as and put links on them as a sponsor. Not having > any control of the OpenBSD web pages, the Foundation directors replied > that they couldn't do that, but they could and would be listed as a > donor. The donor then declined and went away. > > 1) The foundation owns no rights to OpenBSD, whatsoever. (Unlike > FreeBSD and NetBSD, the OpenBSD foundation is not a rights holder and > owns no code, or OpenBSD). The foundation exists only to support > OpenBSD and chooses how to do that. (Theo is actuall not a part of it, > he makes requests of the foundation). > > 2) In light of what I've told you above, The very thought that the > directors of the foundation and the OpenBSD developers would somehow > "sell out" for what is, while very much appreciated, a relatively > small amount of money is so ridiculous it is insulting. Your wild > speculation > is irrational, and insulting to me and good friends of mine. > > If you want to go look for conspiracies of corporate and government > control you should be looking under a different HAT. Please apologize > and > let it drop, or leave our mailing lists and do not return. > > Thanks > > -Bob > > > > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Theo de Raadt <dera...@cvs.openbsd.org> > wrote: > >> it flatters me somewhat that you read so much into > >> my simple astonishment about a news item that does > >> in most geek circles provoke the response "no way, > >> hell froze over". > > > > I quote from your original mail: > > > > this is very impressive news, although for me for all > > the wrong reasons. > > > > Have all the other sponsors contributed for only the right reasons > > over the 20 years? > > > > You did not show simple astonishment -- you judged a sponsor. > > > > Others on the day of that donation also crossed similar lines, some > > implying that the donation was been accepted for the wrong reasons. > > > > This is our house, and you don't get to insult guests who bring a > > generous green salad to the party. That is how you become uninvited. > > >
