Hello Chris

NVDA seems far more object orientated than either of the big two. I really 
don't mean to offend; but this is one of those instances where vision is a very 
definite advantage in terms of assessing accessibility. Window-Eyes changes 
your web page into a vertical sheet of paper, in effect, made from electrons. 
Each "Line" can contain a link or other element. In the object-orientated 
environment, however, links are usually situated side-by-side, often with other 
text or elements, and with title tooltips so that when you hover the mouse over 
the link, other information appears. Window-Eyes doesn't even seem to read out 
the tooltip info without additional interaction. I'd have to check, and I will; 
but I seem to remember that NVDA does do that.

I am starting to think I need to try JFW, just to see what all the fuss is 
about. I am going to do that this morning too. I have some free time, so why 
not use it to further my knowledge.

I take Paul's well-founded points. Yes, development costs money. But the point 
I was making was that Apple must surely have incurred the same costs; yet they 
make their screen-reader available free of charge. My criticism was aimed 
towards Microsoft primarily; rather than the access companies. However, I do 
believe that they do over-charge. I accept the point about market sizes; but 
manufacturers of monitors etc. face stiff competition. They too have to develop 
their products; yet their prices aren't in the thousands.

Lynne

On 29 Dec 2011, at 04:57, Chris Johnson wrote:

Golly,
This thread has read like a battle field.

I like what Paul said about the expenses that a company must go through to 
output a quality product.  And if wasn't for their effort and all those who 
DECIDED to buy their products, hence supporting their further research and 
development, all these free and great screenreaders and such that we have today 
wouldn't be what they are.

that being said.
NVDA works great with Thunderbird and is much more "Maclike" than other 
screenreaders (e.g. H for headings and other commands similar to Voiceover when 
in Browse mode, for example).


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