Hello Chris I've checked again and you're quite right. FS does a dedicated installer for 32 and 64-bit.
Lynne On 29 Dec 2011, at 17:29, chris hallsworth wrote: Ok Lynn well with Window-Eyes demo version you download one program and you can install it on any flavour of Windows. On 29/12/2011 16:02, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: > Hello Chris > > I will check again; but I'm sure I read that on the home page, it only worked > on certain brands of 32-bit Windows. But you may indeed be correct. > > I'm not sure what you mean when you say it's not like WE because WE will work > on any brand of Windows. > > Lynne > > On 29 Dec 2011, at 15:37, chris hallsworth wrote: > > Hi Lynn no JFW demo version runs on both 32 and 64 bit Windows. The trick is > to download the correct version according to your version of Windows. This is > unlike WE or any other screen reader since the one program works on both > platforms. I don't know why FS went down this route but there you go. Anyway > to be honest I like WE for the most part but because NVDA works with the > applications I use on a daily basis I choose to use that as primary and WE > for enhanced iTunes experience or apps that NVDA just cannot cope with, which > is fewer and fewer as each new release comes out. > > On 29/12/2011 15:14, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >> Hello Chris >> >> Well, I can't actually try JFW because the demo version is only 32-bit and >> ours is the 64-bit version of Windows. Maybe it will work; but again, we >> have Ultimate and the demo page seems to indicate that it only works on Home >> basic and Home Premium. >> >> Window-Eyes doesn't to my knowledge allow you to see the design of a website >> which is a huge oversight in my opinion. Not to worry; I've downloaded NVDA >> and once we figure out how to configure and use Braille displays with it, >> we'll most likely stop using WE for the most part. Gordon was saying >> yesterday that he agrees with those who are less than impressed with the new >> version of WE. In fact, it seems to have gone down the pan since 7.0 if all >> the testimonials I've seen are to be believe, rather than the somewhat >> antiquated write-up on the GW Micro website. >> >> Lynne >> >> >> On 29 Dec 2011, at 12:38, chris hallsworth wrote: >> >> Hello Lynn well JFW does the same thing as Window-Eyes in terms of web >> pages. You can however change this somewhere. You are looking for document >> presentation. Change that to use screen layout. >> >> On 29/12/2011 06:06, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote: >>> Hello Chris >>> >>> NVDA seems far more object orientated than either of the big two. I really >>> don't mean to offend; but this is one of those instances where vision is a >>> very definite advantage in terms of assessing accessibility. Window-Eyes >>> changes your web page into a vertical sheet of paper, in effect, made from >>> electrons. Each "Line" can contain a link or other element. In the >>> object-orientated environment, however, links are usually situated >>> side-by-side, often with other text or elements, and with title tooltips so >>> that when you hover the mouse over the link, other information appears. >>> Window-Eyes doesn't even seem to read out the tooltip info without >>> additional interaction. I'd have to check, and I will; but I seem to >>> remember that NVDA does do that. >>> >>> I am starting to think I need to try JFW, just to see what all the fuss is >>> about. I am going to do that this morning too. I have some free time, so >>> why not use it to further my knowledge. >>> >>> I take Paul's well-founded points. Yes, development costs money. But the >>> point I was making was that Apple must surely have incurred the same costs; >>> yet they make their screen-reader available free of charge. My criticism >>> was aimed towards Microsoft primarily; rather than the access companies. >>> However, I do believe that they do over-charge. I accept the point about >>> market sizes; but manufacturers of monitors etc. face stiff competition. >>> They too have to develop their products; yet their prices aren't in the >>> thousands. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 29 Dec 2011, at 04:57, Chris Johnson wrote: >>> >>> Golly, >>> This thread has read like a battle field. >>> >>> I like what Paul said about the expenses that a company must go through to >>> output a quality product. And if wasn't for their effort and all those who >>> DECIDED to buy their products, hence supporting their further research and >>> development, all these free and great screenreaders and such that we have >>> today wouldn't be what they are. >>> >>> that being said. >>> NVDA works great with Thunderbird and is much more "Maclike" than other >>> screenreaders (e.g. H for headings and other commands similar to Voiceover >>> when in Browse mode, for example). >>> >>> >>> ======================================= >>> >>> The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free >>> >>> To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web >>> pages located at >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at >>> either of the following websites: >>> >>> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html >>> >>> Or: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >>> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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