Hello Lynn well JFW does the same thing as Window-Eyes in terms of web
pages. You can however change this somewhere. You are looking for
document presentation. Change that to use screen layout.
On 29/12/2011 06:06, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:
Hello Chris
NVDA seems far more object orientated than either of the big two. I really don't mean to
offend; but this is one of those instances where vision is a very definite advantage in
terms of assessing accessibility. Window-Eyes changes your web page into a vertical sheet
of paper, in effect, made from electrons. Each "Line" can contain a link or
other element. In the object-orientated environment, however, links are usually situated
side-by-side, often with other text or elements, and with title tooltips so that when you
hover the mouse over the link, other information appears. Window-Eyes doesn't even seem
to read out the tooltip info without additional interaction. I'd have to check, and I
will; but I seem to remember that NVDA does do that.
I am starting to think I need to try JFW, just to see what all the fuss is
about. I am going to do that this morning too. I have some free time, so why
not use it to further my knowledge.
I take Paul's well-founded points. Yes, development costs money. But the point
I was making was that Apple must surely have incurred the same costs; yet they
make their screen-reader available free of charge. My criticism was aimed
towards Microsoft primarily; rather than the access companies. However, I do
believe that they do over-charge. I accept the point about market sizes; but
manufacturers of monitors etc. face stiff competition. They too have to develop
their products; yet their prices aren't in the thousands.
Lynne
On 29 Dec 2011, at 04:57, Chris Johnson wrote:
Golly,
This thread has read like a battle field.
I like what Paul said about the expenses that a company must go through to
output a quality product. And if wasn't for their effort and all those who
DECIDED to buy their products, hence supporting their further research and
development, all these free and great screenreaders and such that we have today
wouldn't be what they are.
that being said.
NVDA works great with Thunderbird and is much more "Maclike" than other
screenreaders (e.g. H for headings and other commands similar to Voiceover when in Browse
mode, for example).
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