As for the ribbons. I jut imagine in my head a glorified multi paged dialogue box. I used to be able to get around office 2007 very quickly after I adopted that mentality, but that was over 4 years ago but when I used it last year to do some work for my school I still managed to get around it quickly using that mentality so I guess it still will work.
Yeah I miss the menus to but I believe in the theory that we should role with the punches and that's exactly what I did and it works 90 percent. Be blessed. On Oct 6, 2012, at 5:20 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi David > > I will do some testing shortly under Window-Eyes and let you know. But your > methods of listing, and of headers, are going to make my life easier. > > Gordon > > On 6 Oct 2012, at 13:15, "David Griffith" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Gordon > > Did you get my previous tip about using asterix in lieu of a bullet on the > first line of a list to force Word to insert actual bullets? I never use > ribbons or even menus to insert bullets in Word. > > In general I agree with you that the ribbon interface is extremely nasty for > us and I am eternally grateful that apple show no sign yet of abandoning a > menu interface. > There is a virtual menu feature in jaws which is supposed to rectify some > of the problems encountered with ribbons. This is an option to turn on in > the start up wizard. I do not know if a similar feature exists in Window > eyes. > > > David Griffith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith > Sent: 05 October 2012 20:48 > To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! > Subject: Re: Microsoft Office 2010 Query > > Hi Mary > > OK, to be honest, I would be interested to know how you navigate those > ribbons at all. I still find them very confusing and I'm really not looking > forward to Windows 8 which, I am told, uses them in its base interface. > > On 5 Oct 2012, at 20:41, Mary Stores <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Gordon, > > JAWS does announce the different bullet types that Word uses. Unfortunately, > I cannot find a shortcut key to easily get to the bullets button. There is > none announced by JAWS anyway. The option is in the Home ribbon. You can > choose from filled round, hollow round, cross, diamond, filled square, and > none (I might be missing one). > > Whe reading the bullets in a document, JAWS announces most of the bullets > correctly except for the hollow round bullet. That is read as an o. > > Mary > > > Quoting Gordon Smith <[email protected]>: > >> Hi Mary >> >> I think you're notified instantly under Window-Eyes when something >> becomes a heading. But I will test that and let you know. This is, >> however, good news. I now have sufficient information to make the >> document on which I am working more presentable. Incidentally, do >> the "Bullet" characters, ( ? ) get verbalised under either Jaws or >> Window-Eyes, and for that matter do they appear as bullet characters >> under Windows and, therefore, in your Windows documents at all? 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