Yeah, anybody who thinks we have privacy, not taking a stab at anyone, but we really don't. Not anymore.
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > The title of the documentary is a little deceptive and should be changed to > "In Technology We Trust", I'm only supposing that the producers of the > documentary named the programme the way they did as Google is a household > name. > > In the documentary you quickly learn that Apple is just as bad when it comes > to online security and so forth as anyone else. > > As for Google doing what they do? Well again its not something that worries > me all that much, privacy is something that has long and truly left us so as > users we need to be particularly careful what we do online. > > The documentary doesn't just focus on Internet activities either, the > collection, matching and usage of Data goes well beyond the net. > > The video should be available shortly and I'll post the link when it is. > > > On 13/09/2013, at 9:31 PM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have always expressed my distrust of Google and that is especially true of >> their email services. It is my understanding that Google stores archives of >> all email passing through its system regardless of user preferences. So, >> consider: You place an order with an online store, and they send you an >> email confirming your purchase order. I have seen vendors who do not strip >> out card numbers from confirmation emails. So, if you haffen to be >> purchasing from one of these vendors and you are using Google Mail as your >> email provider, Google then has full details of not only your personal >> address and quite possibly telephone number, but they also have an email in >> their archive containing your credit or debit card number. >> Happily, such cases are becoming more rare due to the fact that more and >> more online vendors are becoming security conscious. All the same, it makes >> me shudder when I think about the possibilities of fraudulant practices >> owing to card details being stored in the archives of a service provider. >> Naturally, I'm not pointing the finger of blame at any specific individual >> here. But I for one am extremely glad that I don't use a public mail >> provider such as Google or Hotmail. >> I always wonder why people feel the need to use these facilities at all >> when, in the majority of cases, Internes service providers usually opporate >> their own internal servers, offering their users a far more secure means of >> email than Google or Hotmail. Can somebody who uses one of these services >> explain to me why they do so? Is it because they wish to segregate mail >> and/or restrict the distribution of certain mail accounts to different >> friends or providers? If so, why not just take up the secondary mailbox >> services which the service provider also usually offers, or else take out an >> account with another privately run server, such as Mac Access or similar? >> It is also worth considering the use of mail rules in most modern clients. >> For instance, Apple Mail, Thunderbird, Eudora, Outlook Express, Outlook >> 2003, 2007, 2010 and 2013 all fully support sophistiaated Email rules and >> junk filtering. So what is the advantage of having numerous accounts in >> numerous places? >> >> whilst it is certainly true that some mail providers do opperate a mail >> quota policy, thereby restricting a user to various amounts of either >> throughput or incoming mail, responsible use of the Email system should >> avoid problems. For example, all Mailman servers or compatible, (which >> accounts for over 98 percent of all maib services which handle list >> traffic), have both websites where you can custoomise or temporarily disable >> delivery of mail without actually leaving the list, plus the fact that the >> email mechanism itself can be used to manipulate the delivery of mail >> traffic. >> This is a pet subject for me, but I've waffled enough for the time being. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Dane Trethowan <[email protected] >> To: "Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm!" <[email protected] >> Date sent: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:56:56 +1000 >> Subject: In Google we Trust >> >> This is a must watch 4 Corners programme, saw it last night and its repeated >> again on Saturday evening on ABC News 24. >> >> You can of course watch the programme through ABC iView or get further >> details, see videos and interviews at >> <http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/09/09/3842009.htm >> >> >> >> ======================================= >> >> The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free >> >> To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web >> pages located at >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at >> either of the following websites: >> >> http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html >> >> Or: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> >> you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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