Okay, the video of the documentary is up now, 
<https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10565527/Four%20Corners%20-%20In%20Google%20We%20Trust.mpg>

On 13/09/2013, at 10:38 PM, Josh Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've never thought about using a secondary account, I use Gmail because it is 
> free and accessible. If using an option such as Mac access were put on the 
> table, I might consider it. I've pretty much got accounts with all of the 
> major providers, Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, MSN, as well as an iCloud, I don't 
> use half of those, but that's my choice. Also, despite this… Providers such 
> as Google don't just offer Gmail,  but other services as well. These include, 
> but are not limited to, Google maps, Google wallet, android, etc.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 7:31 AM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I have always expressed my distrust of Google and that is especially true of 
>> their email services.  It is my understanding that Google stores archives of 
>> all email passing through its system regardless of user preferences.  So, 
>> consider:  You place an order with an online store, and they send you an 
>> email confirming your purchase order.  I have seen vendors who do not strip 
>> out card numbers from confirmation emails.  So, if you haffen to be 
>> purchasing from one of these vendors and you are using Google Mail as your 
>> email provider, Google then has full details of not only your personal 
>> address and quite possibly telephone number, but they also have an email in 
>> their archive containing your credit or debit card number.
>> Happily, such cases are becoming more rare due to the fact that more and 
>> more online vendors are becoming security conscious.  All the same, it makes 
>> me shudder when I think about the possibilities of fraudulant practices 
>> owing to card details being stored in the archives of a service provider.
>> Naturally, I'm not pointing the finger of blame at any specific individual 
>> here.  But I for one am extremely glad that I don't use a public mail 
>> provider such as Google or Hotmail.
>> I always wonder why people feel the need to use these facilities at all 
>> when, in the majority of cases, Internes service providers usually opporate 
>> their own internal servers, offering their users a far more secure means of 
>> email than Google or Hotmail.  Can somebody who uses one of these services 
>> explain to me why they do so?  Is it because they wish to segregate mail 
>> and/or restrict the distribution of certain mail accounts to different 
>> friends or providers?  If so, why not just take up the secondary mailbox 
>> services which the service provider also usually offers, or else take out an 
>> account with another privately run server, such as Mac Access or similar?
>> It is also worth considering the use of mail rules in most modern clients.  
>> For instance, Apple Mail, Thunderbird, Eudora, Outlook Express, Outlook 
>> 2003, 2007, 2010 and 2013 all fully support sophistiaated Email rules and 
>> junk filtering.  So what is the advantage of having numerous accounts in 
>> numerous places?
>> 
>> whilst it is certainly true that some mail providers do opperate a mail 
>> quota policy, thereby restricting a user to various amounts of either 
>> throughput or incoming mail, responsible use of the Email system should 
>> avoid problems.  For example, all Mailman servers or compatible, (which 
>> accounts for over 98 percent of all maib services which handle list 
>> traffic), have both websites where you can custoomise or temporarily disable 
>> delivery of mail without actually leaving the list, plus the fact that the 
>> email mechanism itself can be used to manipulate the delivery of mail 
>> traffic.
>> This is a pet subject for me, but I've waffled enough for the time being.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dane Trethowan <[email protected]
>> To: "Techno-Chat ...  Technology Enthusiasm!" <[email protected]
>> Date sent: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:56:56 +1000
>> Subject: In Google we Trust
>> 
>> This is a must watch 4 Corners programme, saw it last night and its repeated 
>> again on Saturday evening on ABC News 24.
>> 
>> You can of course watch the programme through ABC iView or get further 
>> details, see videos and interviews at 
>> <http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/09/09/3842009.htm
>> 
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