Okay, well its not a personal observation actually and it really doesn't have 
much to do with the list to be honest so perhaps I can try and make things a 
little clearer.

I'm not being personally shunned, what I have found is a... well.. very odd 
type of attitude.

I've explained the concept of the "Pi Player" and explained that the system is 
in multiple parts, for example you have the Raspberry Pi computer at the 
player's center and other parts plugging into this - the speaker, the dongle 
for the remote control, the memory stick for the content etc -.

I appreciate the discussion particularly on this list surrounding the "Pi 
Player" and similar subjects however its a shame that other people have 
suggested that the whole idea is utterly useless and worthless because of the 
nature of the "Pi Player's" design of having multiple components so perhaps 
"Shunned" was a too stronger term to be used here.

Now I admit, we'd really love to build everything into a case like a Plextalk, 
a Victor Reader stream etc and we are looking at options to do this now that 3D 
printing is becoming move viable however if we start building custom boxes and 
making custom designs then the whole cost of the thing sky rockets dramatically 
when the central point of this project is to provide a low cost Daisy solution 
to those who want it, people have the choice of putting it together themselves 
or - if need be - we can send out all the parts required so all the user need 
do is plug everything in and switch on.

There's no way that the "Pi Player" will ever take the place of the 
commercially available products but remember that most of those products are at 
least 3 times the price of one of our "Daisy Pi" configurations which can be 
built from off-the-shelf hardware and most of us have a budget we have to live 
by.


On 11 Nov 2013, at 7:57 pm, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don’t get this.  Who is shunning you?  Just because others have different 
> priorities that does not mean that they’re shunning you, as you put it.  
> Seems to me that there’s a touch of paranoia creeping in here. :)
> 
> |As for development, that’s good.  But just because others opt to go other 
> routes means nothing.
> 
> In terms of the Pi®, I have read stuff about it here and there and, come a 
> time when I’m not so busy with other little things like work, broadcasting, 
> and various other things, I may well look seriously at the project.  But 
> right now I don’t really think there would be much advantage to me personally 
> from becoming involved.  I don’t need a DAISY player, I have them on a number 
> of platforms.  In fact, one can even publish DAISY now from within Windows 
> without having to chew on with OpenOffice and assorted plug-ins.  The DAISY 
> Consortium has now released their own publisher which works very well 
> actually.  Dolphin Computer Access used to be the only realistic publishing 
> solution on Windows until OBI came along.
> 
> But I’m getting off the point.  The point here is that yes, the project has 
> interest.  But I’m puzzled by your outlook on this to be honest.
> 
> After all, we were promised by a number of people that when we got our 
> broadcasting project off the ground they would join us.  But that has not 
> happened.  Are they shunning us?  Of course not.  They just have their own 
> priorities and interests.  That’s fair enough.  At this time I have no 
> intention of becoming involved with RP.  Why?  It’s very simple really.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> <--- Gordon Smith --->
> 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> Information Technology Accessibility Consultant;
> Providing Help & Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus 
> Braille Transcription services.
> 
> On 3 Nov 2013, at 02:49, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I take your point, maybe to you to yes however as I said, we're doing it for 
> our own satisfaction more than anything else and if it can benefit anyone 
> then fine! and it proves the point I made earlier, if anyone tries to develop 
> or work on anything then they seem to be immediately shunned.
> 
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