I explained that earlier, the person I'm working with knows more about the programming side of things than I do.
On 16 Nov 2013, at 9:47 am, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > You repeatedly use the word “We”. I take it from that then that you’re a > designer of these things. Is that correct? Again , I’m not in any way > attempting to diminish the value of this project. Quite the contrary. That > is why this group exists, to discuss technologies such as this. Also, I am > not disinterested in the project as a long-term aim. My own situation is > just too difficult at the moment for me to be able to commit to doing things > properly and I’d prefer not to take on another project just now if I cannot > dedicate the resources to do the thing right. I certainly wish the > developers luck in what they are doing. The concept is certainly a very > interesting one. > > I can certainly appreciate the argument against building commercial or even > multi-machine devices. i can see where you’re coming from in terms of cost. > Yes, you’re right in as much as that it would definitely make the project > less attractive if the costs were to spiral out of control by making it a > commercial venture. I can see also why constructing the things could be > problematic in terms of technical constraints. I am not sure exactly what > these systems use but if the aim of the game were to make ends meet, the > practicalities would most likely be such that it couldn’t be done without > significant cost increases as well as design difficulties. > > For a start, if you’re going to use these things as a commercial proposition, > you’d need to resolve the issues of either having an in-built SD or CF card > reader, a CD drive, HDMI interface, or any combination of the three. Woopse! > There goes your cost, right up through the ceiling. So yes, it is best to > keep the thing out of the realm of commercial entities. So, OK, let’s > discuss the thing on a totally non-commercial basis. DAISY is a great medium > and if a player or even better a recorder can be developed which costs the > user next to nothing, then more power to the developers. Obviously there are > going to be limits. That’s only to be expected but it doesn’t have to put > the carbosh on things. The project does definitely have its merits, and it’s > definitely worth pursuing. Indeed, we here at Techno Chat would very much > welcome the opportunity to do an audio feature with somebody closely involved > with the project. > > Kind regards > > <--- Gordon Smith ---> > > <[email protected]> > > Information Technology Accessibility Consultant; > Providing Help & Support To Young People LivingWith Visual Impairment, plus > Braille Transcription services. > > On 11 Nov 2013, at 14:59, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Okay, well its not a personal observation actually and it really doesn't have > much to do with the list to be honest so perhaps I can try and make things a > little clearer. > > I'm not being personally shunned, what I have found is a... well.. very odd > type of attitude. > > I've explained the concept of the "Pi Player" and explained that the system > is in multiple parts, for example you have the Raspberry Pi computer at the > player's center and other parts plugging into this - the speaker, the dongle > for the remote control, the memory stick for the content etc -. > > I appreciate the discussion particularly on this list surrounding the "Pi > Player" and similar subjects however its a shame that other people have > suggested that the whole idea is utterly useless and worthless because of the > nature of the "Pi Player's" design of having multiple components so perhaps > "Shunned" was a too stronger term to be used here. > > Now I admit, we'd really love to build everything into a case like a > Plextalk, a Victor Reader stream etc and we are looking at options to do this > now that 3D printing is becoming move viable however if we start building > custom boxes and making custom designs then the whole cost of the thing sky > rockets dramatically when the central point of this project is to provide a > low cost Daisy solution to those who want it, people have the choice of > putting it together themselves or - if need be - we can send out all the > parts required so all the user need do is plug everything in and switch on. > > There's no way that the "Pi Player" will ever take the place of the > commercially available products but remember that most of those products are > at least 3 times the price of one of our "Daisy Pi" configurations which can > be built from off-the-shelf hardware and most of us have a budget we have to > live by. > > > ======================================= > > The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free > > To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web > pages located at > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at > either of the following websites: > > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html > > Or: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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