I used to pride myself "not having a virus program", and not being infected
, it was great. Why bother! The problem was some times the phone is ringing
, customers coming in and being in a hurry one day opened a infected file.
Not thinking straight I hit it again because it did not open, I then looked
at the size of the file seeing it was only a few K new it was a virus. This
is where the problems begin. I downloaded programs to get rid of the virus
,it worked and cleaned up  my computer. This is what I thought any way ,but
my computer started doing  weird things. It would shut off by itself, freeze
up etc.and only got worse. I had to reformat and reload all programs. I then
put on a free virus program am now using Norton 2003 "it was free", and has
found many virus's in the past no problem. I still look at attachment email
and delete them even if from friends, if they are small only a few K or I am
unsure of they get deleted especially the joke email.
Just wanted to share what can happen, of course there are those that don't
make mistakes this does not apply!!.
Bruce.

B&T Electronics
139 Margaret St
Sarnia Ontario
Canada
N7T 2Y3
519 344 1850

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eugene Spooner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!


>   Begging yer pardon ! I VOTE TO GET RID OF GARY McCARTNEY
> as I never had an anti-virus program and have not gotten
> infected and used Horse Sense as the best line of Defense. I
> think he implies that there are a lot of folks that don't
> have horse sense ! Wonder if he is lacking in same ? Easy to
> implement ? Yes , if YOU send me the money to do so.
> Best: Eugene
>
> Gary McCartney wrote:
> >
> > Doug, why not make it manditory for the techs to have antivirus or they
> > can't be on the list. You could make them send you a print-screen
> > showing their antivirus program on their computer screen or they could
> > send you a store receipt showing their purchase of the software. Just an
> > idea. It probably wouldn't be as easy as that to impliment.
> >
> > Gary McCartney
> >
> > McCartney Electronics
> > Guelph Ontario Canada
> > Est. 1984
> > email: gary (at) number63.ca
> >
> > Doug Keller wrote:
> > >
> > > What gripes my a** is that AVG and HouseCall are FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! When
> > > something is offered for free, there is absolutely no excuse for not
> > > having it. None but apathy and/or laziness, that is. I have posted and
> > > posted and posted to techassist over the years, as Clint used to do
> > > also, all to no avail. There are just some out there that won't do it.
> > > Here is the link if any of you want to use it or pass it on:
> > > http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php
> > >
> > > Doug Keller
> > > Wis-Kel Electronics
> > > 101 Freeland Ave.
> > > Terra Alta, WV
> > > USA        26764
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > http://www.tech-assist.org
> > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> > > won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> > >
> > > Mark Wentowski wrote:
> > >
> > > >Good Jeff. It should also be mentioned that Norton protection costs
less
> > > >than $30.00 per year. It does piss me off that we have loose cannons
out
> > > >there who have no regard for the other person. Heck.
> > > >
> > > >Mark Wentowski
> > > >Perry Hill Electronics
> > > >3836 Harrison Rd.
> > > >Montgomery AL 36109
> > > >phone: (334)279-5622
> > > >fax:   (334)273-9050
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
> > > >Support
> > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 PM
> > > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> > > >Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Mark,
> > > >Sounds like you do more than most.
> > > >Like I said, I had gotten several of these in between my Norton
updates, but
> > > >they were obviously
> > > >suspicious...Usually the message body makes no sense.
> > > >If you're not sure, just don't open it.. Getting a vir*s really puts
a
> > > >damper on email lists, their users
> > > >and in general the web itself..
> > > >All the while happening in the process of our websites and email
lists
> > > >changing servers. New people will
> > > >not be subscribed unless they contact me personally. This vir*s has
been
> > > >trying to subscribe to the list
> > > >and I had to turn that function off until this thing subsides...10-20
admin
> > > >rejects per day..
> > > >
> > > >Jeff Dougherty
> > > >Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> > > >263 S Front St
> > > >Steelton PA 17113
> > > >fax...717-564-4952
> > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Mark Wentowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Jeff, I know firsthand how much money can be lost when a business
gets a
> > > >virus in the system. I use Norton and get automatic daily updates. On
Friday
> > > >nights Norton does a complete virus scan of all the drives. Am I
doing
> > > >enough? If a computer does get infected but Norton says they are
clean how
> > > >can we find out about it?
> > > >
> > > >Mark Wentowski
> > > >Perry Hill Electronics
> > > >3836 Harrison Rd.
> > > >Montgomery AL 36109
> > > >phone: (334)279-5622
> > > >fax:   (334)273-9050
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
> > > >Support
> > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:21 AM
> > > >To: Tech List
> > > >Subject: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I have one thing to say, if I find out who on this list got infected,
you
> > > >will be permanently banned from
> > > >this list!
> > > >There is no friggin excuse to get infected. Vir*ses have been around
for a
> > > >long time and every
> > > >professional on this list should be able to detect a suspicious
email.
> > > >Just because your anti-vir*s did not detect the attachment, DOES NOT
mean it
> > > >is safe.
> > > >This one came out before I had the updates in my Norton, but it grew
> > > >suspicion, so I updated my
> > > >definitions...
> > > >The only way some of you will learn, is if one of these things wipe
your
> > > >hard drive...
> > > >Use common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >This has created much havoc on this list with 10-20 rejected posts
regarding
> > > >this infection..there is no
> > > >excuse...everyone on here should be smart enough to protect
themselves..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Jeff Dougherty
> > > >Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> > > >263 S Front St
> > > >Steelton PA 17113
> > > >fax...717-564-4952
> > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> > > >
> > > >
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