I think it comes down to three scenarios... 1. If you don't have an AV program you suddenly see a noticeable degradation in the performance of your computer... 2. you don't think your computer is infected...'till someone else with an AV program tells you that you have passed something to them... 3. you spring for an AV program...and lo and behold.......you are infected...(even though you didn't think you were) I am told that "spyware" can raise havoc with your system as well...I use spyware nuker on my computer...don't really understand what it is...I just know I don't want it on my computer :) I use one of those freeware AV programs....seems to work as good as the rest. Large corporations probably pay thousands of dollars for their sofisticated AV software...yet, still get havoc raised with their systems. It's a difficult problem for everyone to deal with... --- Bruce Tiedeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I used to pride myself "not having a virus program", > and not being infected > , it was great. Why bother! The problem was some > times the phone is ringing > , customers coming in and being in a hurry one day > opened a infected file. > Not thinking straight I hit it again because it did > not open, I then looked > at the size of the file seeing it was only a few K > new it was a virus. This > is where the problems begin. I downloaded programs > to get rid of the virus > ,it worked and cleaned up my computer. This is what > I thought any way ,but > my computer started doing weird things. It would > shut off by itself, freeze > up etc.and only got worse. I had to reformat and > reload all programs. I then > put on a free virus program am now using Norton 2003 > "it was free", and has > found many virus's in the past no problem. I still > look at attachment email > and delete them even if from friends, if they are > small only a few K or I am > unsure of they get deleted especially the joke > email. > Just wanted to share what can happen, of course > there are those that don't > make mistakes this does not apply!!. > Bruce. > > B&T Electronics > 139 Margaret St > Sarnia Ontario > Canada > N7T 2Y3 > 519 344 1850 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eugene Spooner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > Begging yer pardon ! I VOTE TO GET RID OF GARY > McCARTNEY > > as I never had an anti-virus program and have not > gotten > > infected and used Horse Sense as the best line of > Defense. I > > think he implies that there are a lot of folks > that don't > > have horse sense ! Wonder if he is lacking in same > ? Easy to > > implement ? Yes , if YOU send me the money to do > so. > > Best: Eugene > > > > Gary McCartney wrote: > > > > > > Doug, why not make it manditory for the techs to > have antivirus or they > > > can't be on the list. You could make them send > you a print-screen > > > showing their antivirus program on their > computer screen or they could > > > send you a store receipt showing their purchase > of the software. Just an > > > idea. It probably wouldn't be as easy as that to > impliment. > > > > > > Gary McCartney > > > > > > McCartney Electronics > > > Guelph Ontario Canada > > > Est. 1984 > > > email: gary (at) number63.ca > > > > > > Doug Keller wrote: > > > > > > > > What gripes my a** is that AVG and HouseCall > are FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! When > > > > something is offered for free, there is > absolutely no excuse for not > > > > having it. None but apathy and/or laziness, > that is. I have posted and > > > > posted and posted to techassist over the > years, as Clint used to do > > > > also, all to no avail. There are just some out > there that won't do it. > > > > Here is the link if any of you want to use it > or pass it on: > > > > http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php > > > > > > > > Doug Keller > > > > Wis-Kel Electronics > > > > 101 Freeland Ave. > > > > Terra Alta, WV > > > > USA 26764 > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org > > > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because > you > > > > won't live long enough to make them all > yourself" > > > > > > > > Mark Wentowski wrote: > > > > > > > > >Good Jeff. It should also be mentioned that > Norton protection costs > less > > > > >than $30.00 per year. It does piss me off > that we have loose cannons > out > > > > >there who have no regard for the other > person. Heck. > > > > > > > > > >Mark Wentowski > > > > >Perry Hill Electronics > > > > >3836 Harrison Rd. > > > > >Montgomery AL 36109 > > > > >phone: (334)279-5622 > > > > >fax: (334)273-9050 > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Intrepid Video > > > > >Support > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 PM > > > > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST > > > > >Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mark, > > > > >Sounds like you do more than most. > > > > >Like I said, I had gotten several of these in > between my Norton > updates, but > > > > >they were obviously > > > > >suspicious...Usually the message body makes > no sense. > > > > >If you're not sure, just don't open it.. > Getting a vir*s really puts > a > > > > >damper on email lists, their users > > > > >and in general the web itself.. > > > > >All the while happening in the process of our > websites and email > lists > > > > >changing servers. New people will > > > > >not be subscribed unless they contact me > personally. This vir*s has > been > > > > >trying to subscribe to the list > > > > >and I had to turn that function off until > this thing subsides...10-20 > admin > > > > >rejects per day.. > > > > > > > > > >Jeff Dougherty > > > > >Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > > > >263 S Front St > > > > >Steelton PA 17113 > > > > >fax...717-564-4952 > > > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Mark Wentowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 PM > > > > >Subject: RE: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jeff, I know firsthand how much money can be > lost when a business > gets a > > > > >virus in the system. I use Norton and get > automatic daily updates. On > Friday > > > > >nights Norton does a complete virus scan of > all the drives. Am I > doing > > > > >enough? If a computer does get infected but > Norton says they are > clean how > > > > >can we find out about it? > > > > > > > > > >Mark Wentowski > > > > >Perry Hill Electronics > > > > >3836 Harrison Rd. > > > > >Montgomery AL 36109 > > > > >phone: (334)279-5622 > > > > >fax: (334)273-9050 > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > === message truncated ===
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