Time for my 2 Cents worth here. I use NAV and update it daily. Also have Norton firewall too. I run SpyBot AND Ad-Aware both. They will generally catch what the other has missed. Just had a NAV problem here and had to completely reinstall NAV and the firewall. Got corrupted. While the professional comp guru was looking thru my machine he found 2 spyware files I never knew existed. None of the spyware progs caught them. They must have been on for a couple of years now. Sigh......
I did originally try Macafee- but had to uninstall it as it did not work with my machine. Same with Zone Alarm. I think both have been upgraded since though. I am running Windblows 98 SE. Wish I was better at this computer stuff, as I'd change to Lindows or Linux. Have a good weekend. Frank Dr. Digital ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Spooner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > What about Spybot ? I have it and so do Michael Bisk at > Prelco and he also thinks it does a better job of spyware > eradication. When I ran it first time - it found fragments > of spyware that I had killed and advised me of some popular > programs such as Real Media Player has it and part of the > 'deal' if you want to use it. They use it to find out > 'what's popular' ! > Best: Eugene > > Tel-Tek Electronics wrote: > > > > Oh..Oh..The Canadians are on the Warpath. (kidding Bruce) > > Nope...you're right, anyone that thinks they have enough "Horse Sense" > > to avoid being infected, has a misconception of how virus are spread. > > And if anyone on TechAssist, or our other lists feels he is > > qualified to be able to separate content from the chaff, may just be in > > the wrong business, and send a resume to Norton or MacAfee. > > I don't push either program, both are good. I sometime question > > why ISP's try to sell you Virus Protection, such as mine (Sympatico). > > Since I believe running an Internet Service, it would be in their best > > interest to apply this on their Head end. But this may change in the > > near future. > > > > Biggest thing that bothers me, WHY are there people that want to > > purposely destroy or obstruct Internet communication and commerce. > > I'm sure it takes more understanding of programming, and > > knowledge of how computers work, to sit there and write malicious > > script. > > No one really has to give me an answer to the last question, > > since I am not that naive. But just pisses me off.;-) > > > > -Ed- > > > > Ed Gaidies > > Tel-Tek Electronics > > Ontario-Canada > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Tiedeman > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 1:34 PM > > To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST > > Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > I used to pride myself "not having a virus program", and not being > > infected > > , it was great. Why bother! The problem was some times the phone is > > ringing > > , customers coming in and being in a hurry one day opened a infected > > file. > > Not thinking straight I hit it again because it did not open, I then > > looked > > at the size of the file seeing it was only a few K new it was a virus. > > This > > is where the problems begin. I downloaded programs to get rid of the > > virus > > ,it worked and cleaned up my computer. This is what I thought any way > > ,but > > my computer started doing weird things. It would shut off by itself, > > freeze > > up etc.and only got worse. I had to reformat and reload all programs. I > > then > > put on a free virus program am now using Norton 2003 "it was free", and > > has > > found many virus's in the past no problem. I still look at attachment > > email > > and delete them even if from friends, if they are small only a few K or > > I am > > unsure of they get deleted especially the joke email. > > Just wanted to share what can happen, of course there are those that > > don't > > make mistakes this does not apply!!. > > Bruce. > > > > B&T Electronics > > 139 Margaret St > > Sarnia Ontario > > Canada > > N7T 2Y3 > > 519 344 1850 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eugene Spooner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 11:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > > Begging yer pardon ! I VOTE TO GET RID OF GARY McCARTNEY > > > as I never had an anti-virus program and have not gotten > > > infected and used Horse Sense as the best line of Defense. I > > > think he implies that there are a lot of folks that don't > > > have horse sense ! Wonder if he is lacking in same ? Easy to > > > implement ? Yes , if YOU send me the money to do so. > > > Best: Eugene > > > > > > Gary McCartney wrote: > > > > > > > > Doug, why not make it manditory for the techs to have antivirus or > > they > > > > can't be on the list. You could make them send you a print-screen > > > > showing their antivirus program on their computer screen or they > > could > > > > send you a store receipt showing their purchase of the software. > > Just an > > > > idea. It probably wouldn't be as easy as that to impliment. > > > > > > > > Gary McCartney > > > > > > > > McCartney Electronics > > > > Guelph Ontario Canada > > > > Est. 1984 > > > > email: gary (at) number63.ca > > > > > > > > Doug Keller wrote: > > > > > > > > > > What gripes my a** is that AVG and HouseCall are FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! > > When > > > > > something is offered for free, there is absolutely no excuse for > > not > > > > > having it. None but apathy and/or laziness, that is. I have posted > > and > > > > > posted and posted to techassist over the years, as Clint used to > > do > > > > > also, all to no avail. There are just some out there that won't do > > it. > > > > > Here is the link if any of you want to use it or pass it on: > > > > > http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php > > > > > > > > > > Doug Keller > > > > > Wis-Kel Electronics > > > > > 101 Freeland Ave. > > > > > Terra Alta, WV > > > > > USA 26764 > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org > > > > > "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you > > > > > won't live long enough to make them all yourself" > > > > > > > > > > Mark Wentowski wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >Good Jeff. It should also be mentioned that Norton protection > > costs > > less > > > > > >than $30.00 per year. It does piss me off that we have loose > > cannons > > out > > > > > >there who have no regard for the other person. Heck. > > > > > > > > > > > >Mark Wentowski > > > > > >Perry Hill Electronics > > > > > >3836 Harrison Rd. > > > > > >Montgomery AL 36109 > > > > > >phone: (334)279-5622 > > > > > >fax: (334)273-9050 > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid > > Video > > > > > >Support > > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 PM > > > > > >To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST > > > > > >Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Mark, > > > > > >Sounds like you do more than most. > > > > > >Like I said, I had gotten several of these in between my Norton > > updates, but > > > > > >they were obviously > > > > > >suspicious...Usually the message body makes no sense. > > > > > >If you're not sure, just don't open it.. Getting a vir*s really > > puts > > a > > > > > >damper on email lists, their users > > > > > >and in general the web itself.. > > > > > >All the while happening in the process of our websites and email > > lists > > > > > >changing servers. New people will > > > > > >not be subscribed unless they contact me personally. This vir*s > > has > > been > > > > > >trying to subscribe to the list > > > > > >and I had to turn that function off until this thing > > subsides...10-20 > > admin > > > > > >rejects per day.. > > > > > > > > > > > >Jeff Dougherty > > > > > >Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > > > > >263 S Front St > > > > > >Steelton PA 17113 > > > > > >fax...717-564-4952 > > > > > >www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >From: "Mark Wentowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 PM > > > > > >Subject: RE: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jeff, I know firsthand how much money can be lost when a business > > gets a > > > > > >virus in the system. I use Norton and get automatic daily > > updates. On > > Friday > > > > > >nights Norton does a complete virus scan of all the drives. Am I > > doing > > > > > >enough? If a computer does get infected but Norton says they are > > clean how > > > > > >can we find out about it? > > > > > > > > > > > >Mark Wentowski > > > > > >Perry Hill Electronics > > > > > >3836 Harrison Rd. > > > > > >Montgomery AL 36109 > > > > > >phone: (334)279-5622 > > > > > >fax: (334)273-9050 > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid > > Video > > > > > >Support > > > > > >Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:21 AM > > > > > >To: Tech List > > > > > >Subject: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I have one thing to say, if I find out who on this list got > > infected, > > you > > > > > >will be permanently banned from > > > > > >this list! > > > > > >There is no friggin excuse to get infected. Vir*ses have been > > around > > for a > > > > > >long time and every > > > > > >professional on this list should be able to detect a suspicious > > email. > > > > > >Just because your anti-vir*s did not detect the attachment, DOES > > NOT > > mean it > > > > > >is safe. > > > > > >This one came out before I had the updates in my Norton, but it > > grew > > > > > >suspicion, so I updated my > > > > > >definitions... > > > > > >The only way some of you will learn, is if one of these things > > wipe > > your > > > > > >hard drive... > > > > > >Use common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > >This has created much havoc on this list with 10-20 rejected > > posts > > regarding > > > > > >this infection..there is no > > > > > >excuse...everyone on here should be smart enough to protect > > themselves.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jeff Dougherty > > > > > >Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > > > > >263 S Front St > > > > > >Steelton PA 17113 > > > > > >fax...717-564-4952 > > > > > 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