With "Friends" like that , who needs Enemies ? I got
plenty of that kind around here and meet them only on
Neutral Territory ( Nothing to do with you Ed ! ).
Best: Eugene

Bil Green wrote:
> 
> It's so obvious that these e-mails are not from a friend ("Hi", "The
> message contains Unicode characters and has been sent as a binary
> attachment",
> 
> [���j��C�h ˶�Gm.�}7��8��j1��`��_(�^JZ ��4ik&.���z1YC�2
> ?'(T�h
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> �������
> Iw���p�`�hM2:����#��9�`�N����ԷwIT�)����Tn�O�P]�<,i�'�.���U�m�V����%���[G�o���ZN�14xn
> FC[��>�B�i���ֻ�.Y�"�ES1(��c�Y-]�vM̅�WNrP/_xP�!���g�����S��Y�����8%�:���"��5���y��<��N�PZ$}Q:(Hr���ͽW���n؈�~���D�({N�"Q�"�s��?�"Yֺ�~.����K<�V�����A�.Y�zT�£h��;�3g��^5ka�U���Id�B�1�&
> 
> etc.). Why would anyone open an attachment with these type of messages
> in the e-mail? (especially knowing that there are more viruses lately).
> 
> --
> Best regards,
> 
>  Bil Green
>  2001 TV VCR
>  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
>  760-934-2001                           mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Saturday, January 31, 2004, 7:55:32 AM, you wrote:
> 
> IVS> Problem is, people who do have protection are too confident.
> IVS> You still have to be leery as it does take time after an outbreak for these 
> companies to update their
> IVS> definitions. Usually only a few hours, but that is long enough for this thing 
> to spread...
> IVS>  You still must be suspicious of every attachment..
> IVS> If that emails has some garbage, or does not make any sense, right there is a 
> red flag..
> 
> IVS> Jeff Dougherty
> IVS> Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> IVS> 263 S Front St
> IVS> Steelton PA 17113
> IVS> fax...717-564-4952
> IVS> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> 
> IVS> ----- Original Message -----
> IVS> From: "Doug Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> IVS> To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> IVS> Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:28 AM
> IVS> Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> 
> IVS> What gripes my a** is that AVG and HouseCall are FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! When
> IVS> something is offered for free, there is absolutely no excuse for not
> IVS> having it. None but apathy and/or laziness, that is. I have posted and
> IVS> posted and posted to techassist over the years, as Clint used to do
> IVS> also, all to no avail. There are just some out there that won't do it.
> IVS> Here is the link if any of you want to use it or pass it on:
> IVS> http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php
> 
> IVS> Doug Keller
> IVS> Wis-Kel Electronics
> IVS> 101 Freeland Ave.
> IVS> Terra Alta, WV
> IVS> USA        26764
> IVS> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> IVS> http://www.tech-assist.org
> IVS> "Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
> IVS> won't live long enough to make them all yourself"
> 
> IVS> Mark Wentowski wrote:
> 
> >>Good Jeff. It should also be mentioned that Norton protection costs less
> >>than $30.00 per year. It does piss me off that we have loose cannons out
> >>there who have no regard for the other person. Heck.
> >>
> >>Mark Wentowski
> >>Perry Hill Electronics
> >>3836 Harrison Rd.
> >>Montgomery AL 36109
> >>phone: (334)279-5622
> >>fax:   (334)273-9050
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
> >>Support
> >>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 PM
> >>To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
> >>Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>Mark,
> >>Sounds like you do more than most.
> >>Like I said, I had gotten several of these in between my Norton updates, but
> >>they were obviously
> >>suspicious...Usually the message body makes no sense.
> >>If you're not sure, just don't open it.. Getting a vir*s really puts a
> >>damper on email lists, their users
> >>and in general the web itself..
> >>All the while happening in the process of our websites and email lists
> >>changing servers. New people will
> >>not be subscribed unless they contact me personally. This vir*s has been
> >>trying to subscribe to the list
> >>and I had to turn that function off until this thing subsides...10-20 admin
> >>rejects per day..
> >>
> >>Jeff Dougherty
> >>Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> >>263 S Front St
> >>Steelton PA 17113
> >>fax...717-564-4952
> >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: "Mark Wentowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 PM
> >>Subject: RE: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>Jeff, I know firsthand how much money can be lost when a business gets a
> >>virus in the system. I use Norton and get automatic daily updates. On Friday
> >>nights Norton does a complete virus scan of all the drives. Am I doing
> >>enough? If a computer does get infected but Norton says they are clean how
> >>can we find out about it?
> >>
> >>Mark Wentowski
> >>Perry Hill Electronics
> >>3836 Harrison Rd.
> >>Montgomery AL 36109
> >>phone: (334)279-5622
> >>fax:   (334)273-9050
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
> >>Support
> >>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:21 AM
> >>To: Tech List
> >>Subject: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
> >>
> >>
> >>I have one thing to say, if I find out who on this list got infected, you
> >>will be permanently banned from
> >>this list!
> >>There is no friggin excuse to get infected. Vir*ses have been around for a
> >>long time and every
> >>professional on this list should be able to detect a suspicious email.
> >>Just because your anti-vir*s did not detect the attachment, DOES NOT mean it
> >>is safe.
> >>This one came out before I had the updates in my Norton, but it grew
> >>suspicion, so I updated my
> >>definitions...
> >>The only way some of you will learn, is if one of these things wipe your
> >>hard drive...
> >>Use common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>This has created much havoc on this list with 10-20 rejected posts regarding
> >>this infection..there is no
> >>excuse...everyone on here should be smart enough to protect themselves..
> >>
> >>
> >>Jeff Dougherty
> >>Intrepid Video TV/VCR
> >>263 S Front St
> >>Steelton PA 17113
> >>fax...717-564-4952
> >>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
> >>
> >>
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