Problem is, people who do have protection are too confident.
You still have to be leery as it does take time after an outbreak for these companies 
to update their
definitions. Usually only a few hours, but that is long enough for this thing to 
spread...
 You still must be suspicious of every attachment..
If that emails has some garbage, or does not make any sense, right there is a red 
flag..

Jeff Dougherty
Intrepid Video TV/VCR
263 S Front St
Steelton PA 17113
fax...717-564-4952
www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Keller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!


What gripes my a** is that AVG and HouseCall are FREE!!!!!!!!!!!! When
something is offered for free, there is absolutely no excuse for not
having it. None but apathy and/or laziness, that is. I have posted and
posted and posted to techassist over the years, as Clint used to do
also, all to no avail. There are just some out there that won't do it.
Here is the link if any of you want to use it or pass it on:
http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php

Doug Keller
Wis-Kel Electronics
101 Freeland Ave.
Terra Alta, WV
USA        26764
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.tech-assist.org
"Learn from the mistakes of others, because you
won't live long enough to make them all yourself"



Mark Wentowski wrote:

>Good Jeff. It should also be mentioned that Norton protection costs less
>than $30.00 per year. It does piss me off that we have loose cannons out
>there who have no regard for the other person. Heck.
>
>Mark Wentowski
>Perry Hill Electronics
>3836 Harrison Rd.
>Montgomery AL 36109
>phone: (334)279-5622
>fax:   (334)273-9050
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
>Support
>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 PM
>To: ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST
>Subject: Re: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
>
>
>Mark,
>Sounds like you do more than most.
>Like I said, I had gotten several of these in between my Norton updates, but
>they were obviously
>suspicious...Usually the message body makes no sense.
>If you're not sure, just don't open it.. Getting a vir*s really puts a
>damper on email lists, their users
>and in general the web itself..
>All the while happening in the process of our websites and email lists
>changing servers. New people will
>not be subscribed unless they contact me personally. This vir*s has been
>trying to subscribe to the list
>and I had to turn that function off until this thing subsides...10-20 admin
>rejects per day..
>
>Jeff Dougherty
>Intrepid Video TV/VCR
>263 S Front St
>Steelton PA 17113
>fax...717-564-4952
>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Wentowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "ELECTRONICS PROFESSIONALS LIST" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 6:45 PM
>Subject: RE: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
>
>
>Jeff, I know firsthand how much money can be lost when a business gets a
>virus in the system. I use Norton and get automatic daily updates. On Friday
>nights Norton does a complete virus scan of all the drives. Am I doing
>enough? If a computer does get infected but Norton says they are clean how
>can we find out about it?
>
>Mark Wentowski
>Perry Hill Electronics
>3836 Harrison Rd.
>Montgomery AL 36109
>phone: (334)279-5622
>fax:   (334)273-9050
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Intrepid Video
>Support
>Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:21 AM
>To: Tech List
>Subject: [Techs] WHO DONE IT!!!!!
>
>
>I have one thing to say, if I find out who on this list got infected, you
>will be permanently banned from
>this list!
>There is no friggin excuse to get infected. Vir*ses have been around for a
>long time and every
>professional on this list should be able to detect a suspicious email.
>Just because your anti-vir*s did not detect the attachment, DOES NOT mean it
>is safe.
>This one came out before I had the updates in my Norton, but it grew
>suspicion, so I updated my
>definitions...
>The only way some of you will learn, is if one of these things wipe your
>hard drive...
>Use common sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>This has created much havoc on this list with 10-20 rejected posts regarding
>this infection..there is no
>excuse...everyone on here should be smart enough to protect themselves..
>
>
>Jeff Dougherty
>Intrepid Video TV/VCR
>263 S Front St
>Steelton PA 17113
>fax...717-564-4952
>www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net
>
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