...also, I still remain unconvinced that the UEs are transmitting any upload 
traffic -- even when properly marked with the right DSCP -- on the dedicated 
bearer.  Until it is proven beyond a doubt that this works, testing upload 
capacity using dedicated bearers is probably a waste of time because it isn't 
doing what you think it is doing.

I have tested both CPE7000 and CPE8000 at this point, and have the same issue 
on both, so I don't think it is a CPE firmware bug (that would be a freaky 
coincidence, given that both CPEs are contract-manufactured by different 
companies).  So I don't know if this is me being stupid and not configuring my 
EPCs correctly, or what.  But something is not working here.

-- Nathan

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Nathan Anderson
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 2:06 PM
To: 'Adam Moffett'; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Uplink throughput again

Something that I learned that I should point out:

A dedicated bearer with a higher priority should take precedence over default 
bearer traffic, yes.  But from what I can tell, LTE spec. does not have a way 
of putting a total speed cap on the entire UE across any and all bearers.  The 
UE AMBRs only restrict all non-GBR bearers (default or not, even across 
multiple APNs) but does NOT take into account GBR bearers, and QCI 1 is GBR.

What this means is that, for example, if you have a default bearer with QCI 6, 
and dedicated bearer with QCI 1, and the UE DL and UL AMBRs are set to 10 and 1 
Mbit/s respectively, and your dedicated bearer's MBRs are set to 5 and 0.5 
(half of the UE AMBRs, for the sake of this example), you haven't actually set 
up things such that up to half of the subscriber's AMBRs are given priority on 
the dedicated bearer, leaving that user half of his total bandwidth if you end 
up filling the dedicated bearer up to its MBR in both directions.  No, instead 
because the GBR QCIs are not accounted for within the AMBR, the user can move 
up to 5x0.5 on the dedicated bearer and *simultaneously* also move up to 10x1 
(assuming there is enough sector capacity at the time) on the default bearer.

Maybe in some cases, this is desireable.  If you use QCI 1 for VoIP, for 
example, then you are effectively providing the customer with a separate 
channel for their voice calls that does not dip into their configured speed 
package, but is instead additive.  But it is something to keep in mind as you 
are planning and building your network as well as running tests.

-- Nathan

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2017 1:48 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Uplink throughput again

The EPC and most of the eNB are running the latest general release available on 
Zendesk.
A couple of eNB are running some kind of maintenance release that support 
wanted us to try.

I'm making sure to run iPerf on the dedicated bearer to eliminate other user 
traffic from weaker UE as a factor.  At QCI 1 it should take precedence over 
the default bearer traffic.

I would definitely take the time to set one up, not necessarily for this 
purpose, but rather to ensure you always have access to your UE.  If the 
default bearer is hosed with a torrent and you don't have a dedicated bearer 
for management access then you can be completely locked out of the unit.  
Monitoring, management access, and firmware updates all work more reliably with 
the dedicated bearer and I'd strongly recommend it.  There's a knowledge base 
article in Zendesk about it.  Use DSCP 6 because that's tagged by default in 
the UE.



------ Original Message ------
From: "Jeremy Austin" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 2/6/2017 4:30:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Uplink throughput again


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Adam Moffett 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Can somebody tell me if they're getting expected uplink throughput?


What ENB and EPC revisions are you at, Adam?

We're investigating this same issue ourselves, although we haven't tried a 
dedicated bearer.


--
Jeremy Austin

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