>From what I know, Washington pretty much ignores petitions, but doesn't hurt 
>to sign - just in case.  Personal letters are better but the main thing that 
>happens there by staffers is they just get quantified in statistics by subject 
>and keywords and presented to Congress as percentages on issues, yea or nay 
>&c, which could merit discussion.  These days, it's people with political 
>connections and officers of organizations who might be able able to get 
>through.  A basic strategy is you got to go meet with your Congressional 
>Delegation - go to the offices in person, and maybe the congressperson or 
>senator will actually be it.  But the staffers will talk to you and that's the 
>best chance - you might end up on the phone in person.


But the Center for Biological Travesty strategy here is interesting and 
creative (in war, strategies count) - since they already lost a lawsuit on 
these lines big-time, they are taking it to the Council on Environmental 
Quality, which was created by the National Environmental Policy Act.  Uh oh - 
it doesn't matter whether you got a liberal or conservative administration, CEQ 
and NEPA can really impact the situation - that council and that law sure can.  
It's a good law and sure am glad Nixon got it through, but it can be brought to 
bear in some very serious ways.  Next - CBD and their supportive allies are 
doing way more than just a petition:  lobbying and personal meetings with 
congressional delegations.  Strategies.


So, what shall the Cavers' and other reasonable citizens' strategy(ies) be?  
Nope, you can't just sign a petition and that's it.  We got way more work to do.

 
Mike



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Subject: Fwd: Petition to keep public caves open to the public
 





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From: [email protected]
>
>Date: April 13, 2012 9:16:01 AM MDT
>
>To: [email protected], [email protected], 
>[email protected], [email protected]
>
>Bcc: [email protected]
>
>Subject: Petition to keep public caves open to the public
>
>
>Hey, all,
>
>As you may know, the CBD is petitioning the White House to close all
>public caves and fine private landowners who keep their caves open.
>This is a serious threat to the caves, which are often vandalized when
>responsible visitation is removed, and does nothing to protect the
>bats since WNS is spread bat-to-bat. Human contributions to spread can
>be effectively controlled with decon, assuming a human vector ever
>existed. Closing publicly owned caves to the public is a threat to
>conservation, a limitation of freedom, and is based on bad science,
>and I am tired of not standing up to say that. If you support this
>cause, please sign this counter petition to keep the caves open.
>
>https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petitions/!/petition/support-conservation-recreation-science-and-personal-freedom-mandating-public-access-caves-public/YX8Bjp3F
>
>Sincerely,
>John Dunham
>

Kathy Peerman
[email protected]
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