Pranam How well the nunal speaks politely about itself in that comment?. Indeed the vacant mind of NS. K R IRS 4121
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 09:51, Narayanaswamy Subramanian < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear folks > > "The loud laugh bespeaks the vacant mind," as William Shakespeare said. > > S Narayanaswsmy Iyer > > > > > On Sunday, January 3, 2021, 05:44:23 PM GMT+8, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Frankly my intention is/was to provoke laughter at the anxiety of today's > parents about the education of their children.But it has turned into the > top high brow. > YM > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 3:08 PM Sithamalli Balasubramanian < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Instead of ridiculing science we should be proud that our ancestors > realized many things science discovers. One thing we should acknowledge: we > know how science discovers, - by observation and inference. Inference may > be wrong whilst observation would not be. > We do not know how the ancients arrived at the concepts > I had drawn attention to a whole set of concepts- Genesis, Evolution etc. > that were speculated by the ancients. > There are two ways in which this could come about: 1. Our brain is wired > for these realization/discovery. This is called intuition. 2. It could be > put in another way- intelligent imagination - like the superman and other > comics including the TV show Star Trek. > The Tamil Mahabharata narration directed by Krishna gives a > different account in Abhimanyu's story. Krishna was actually teaching him > the technique of chakravyuha. Something intervened (which was not clear > even in the TV-show) and Krishna could not teach him how to get out of the > circle. > Perhaps the author may be amused that Aldous Huxey called "womb learning", > hypno-pedia, in his Brave New World. I think it was i1930s. > One more thing: I doubt if it is confirmed by scientific observation. > Skb. > > On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 13:13, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Ya always one from one Thank you K R IRS > > On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 12:51, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu < > [email protected]> wrote: > > My aim is to make all laugh. > But I did not expect the handsome dividend from you.I congratulate > myself,for provoking your enlightening juices. > YM > > On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 11:58 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Pranam > Microsoft Word - Aitareya Upanishad-TNS-Complete > > ABHIMANYU, EDUCATION AND BIRTH TIME CONCEPTS > > 1 YMji shows a satire on education of IIT jee and similar standards of > money-making coaching of today, and compares the students as if Abhimanyu > half baked syndrome. If I am correct it is mocking the system of today. > However, because Subadra slept over and perhaps Abhimanyu was listening is > unknown to Arjuna, the withdrawal technology was unknown to Abhimanyu who > took to fighting as student of Balarama and Arjuna entering the arena of > war and for saving grace, asking him to enter and break the Chakra > promising to help him by following him along with but failed to chase as > the vihuham was closed after the entry of Abhimanyu. Ofcourse > > Abhimanyu was born to Arjuna the 3rd Pandava, and Subadra, the sister > of Sri Krishna According to a Tamil folklore, when Abhimanyu was in his > mother's womb, he heard about the Chakravyuham. He only gained half > knowledge which was entering the Chakravyuham. As an unborn child in his > mother’s womb, Abhimanyu learned the knowledge of entering the deadly and > virtually impenetrable Chakravyuham from Arjuna. The Mahabharata explains > that from the womb, Abhimanyu overheard Arjuna talking about this with his > mother Subhadra. Arjuna explained to Subhadra in detail the technique of > attacking and escaping from various vyoohs (an array of army formation) > such as Makaravyoha, Kurma Vyuha, Sarpavyuha, etc. After explaining all the > vyoohs, he explained about the technique of cracking Chakravyuha, and > entering it. When he was about to explain how to exit from the Chakravyuha, > he realised that Subadra was asleep and stopped explaining about the > Chakravyuham further. In return, the baby Abhimanyu in the womb did not get > a chance to learn how to come out of it. > > The lesson is that it is karma that reacts stronger than the > learning or the exploitations. Everyone knew the weakness of the warrior > and were willing to provide the back up and wanted to use the tool to break > the ice, yet the karma conquered ultimately, whereas even the dead children > killed by Ashwattama were revived by Krishna. One thing to choose the > better one to learn; and 2 even if learnt better Karma will win over. > > The concept of a child can learn even at the womb was professed > 5000 years back whereas they say it is a modern science!. But the concept > is no doubt true. *Pralhad’s* mother, Queen Kayadhu was pregnant with > him, she used to listen to devotional songs and words of Narada Muni. Now > what do our scriptures say about it? Aitareya upanishad speaks about it: > chap 2 > > “ This final substance constitutes the essence of everything, and it > is our very Self. It is called the Atman. It is the Atman because it is the > root substance of all things which are in the position of an effect. The > Aitareya Upanishad proclaims that the Atman, in the beginning, was the all; > and it has become all this universe. Total effect came out of the Total > Cause. From Brahman came the universe. There is an inscrutable > relationship, ‘*anirvachaniya sambandha*’, between the effect and the > cause. There is not an absolute identity, because there is a manifestation. > It is not an absolute manifestation, because we can see our relationship > with the cause. This relationship between God and man, the Creator and the > universe, the Absolute and the relative, is unintelligible. “*Atma va > idam eka evagra asit, nanyat kin cana misat*,” says the Aitareya > Upanishad. > > Now, this is a very grand concept the Upanishads are placing > before us in connection with the process of the creation of the universe, > and we are very happy to hear all these truths. > > *OM puruShe ha vA ayamAdito garbho bhavati yadetadretaH > .tadetatsarvebhyo.a~NgebhyastejaH saMbhUtamAtmanyeva.a.atmAnaM bibharti > tadyadA striyA.n si~nchatyathainajjanayati tadasya prathama.n janma .. 1.. > *This person (Jiva) is, at first, the germ in a man. That which is the > semen is here called the germ. This semen is the vigor drawn from all the > limbs. The man holds this essence of his Self in his own body. When he > pours the semen into a woman, he procreates himself. This, indeed, is the > first > birth of the embodied soul. > > *sA bhAvayitrI bhAvayitavyA bhavati . ta.n strI garbha bibharti > . so.agra eva kumAra.n janmano.agre.adhibhAvayati . sa yatkumAra.n > janmano.agre.adhibhAvayatyAtmAnameva tadbhAvayatyeSha.n **lokAnA.n > santatyA . eva.n santatA hIme lokAstadasya dvitIya.n janma .. 3.. *She, > being the nourisher of the child , should be nourished. The woman nourishes > the embryo. Immediately after its birth the father nourishes the child. > Nourishing the child from birth onward, he thus nourishes himself for the > continuation of these worlds. For thus alone are these worlds perpetuated. > This is one's second birth. > > *so.asyAyamAtmA puNyebhyaH karmabhyaH pratidhIyate . > athAsyAyAmitara AtmA kRitakRityo vayogataH praiti . sa itaH prayanneva > punarjAyate tadasya tRitIya.n janma .. 4..*The child who is the father’s > own Self is made his substitute for performing virtuous deeds. Then the > Self of the father, having accomplished his duties and reached his age > departs. So departing hence, he is born again. This is the third birth. > > *taduktamRiShiNA garbhe nu sannanveShAmavedamaha.n devAnA.n > janimAni vishvA shataM mA pura AyasIrarakShannadhaH shyeno javasA > niradIyamiti . garbha evaitachChayAno vAmadeva evamuvAcha .. 5.. *About > this a rishi has said: "While still lying in the womb, I came to know all > the births of the gods. A hundred strongholds, as if made of iron, confined > me, yet I burst through them all swiftly, like a hawk." Vamadeva spoke, > in this way, even while lying in the womb. { a child learns even in > the womb right from Upanishad of the Rig, Vamadeva said I learnt even while > in the womb}. > > Sage Vamadeva, even while he was in his mother’s womb, obtained > the real knowledge. Thus he said at that very stage, “O, what an amazing > thing that while living in the womb itself I came to know the reality about > these gods i.e. inner senses and their several births. In other words, I > knew that it is the inner sense and *indriyas *which are subjected to > birth and death and not the Atman. Before I realized this secret I had to > pass through several bodily cages hard like iron. I had such a strong > identity with them that it was very difficult for me to get rid of them. > Now, like a hawk, by applying the full strength of knowledge I broke all > the fetters and became detached and free. I have no relation with the body > and understood that I am not the body” > > *sa eva.n vidvAnasmAchCharIrabhedAdUrdhva utkramyAmuShmin. h svarge > loke sarvAn.h kAmAnAptvA.amRitaH samabhavat.h samabhavat.h .. 6.. *Thus > endowed with Knowledge, he, becoming one with the Supreme Self and soaring > aloft on the dissolution of the body, obtained all desires in the heavenly > world and became immortal-yea, became immortal. > > In this way Sage Vamadeva knew the secret of transmigration while he was > in the womb itself. He knew that while a man feels himself identified with > the body, he cannot escape the cycles of birth and death. Vamadeva coming > through life rose up high from the mundane level and reached the Supreme > abode of the Lord. There he found himself with no desires that were to be > fulfilled and became immortal. He got released forever from the wheel of > birth and death. “ end of chap2. > > So it is not modern science but the science told long back > which when we read are astounded!. Kamya Karya cannot be stopped as long as > human desire exist.And Karma shall react whether it is Abhimanyu or > Vamadeva or Druva concepts. KR S 3121 > > On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 21:27, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > -- > *Mar*The Abhimanyu Concept Revolution > > > > The great champion of earliest possible start in the IIT-JEE coaching,Mr > Education, who pioneered coaching the pregnant and very ambitious mothers, > in the IIT-JEE subjects, as a champion of lateral development concepts, > introduced many other innovations. > > 1) During the purposeful sex to get a child, the couple must become > good in the IIT JEE subjects by taking his special coaching. Because > according to him, at the exact nano second, when the 23 chromosomes of the > husband fuse with the 23 chromosomes of the wife, to become zygote, the DNA > molecule with billions of base pairs or genes forms instantly in that > zygote. That was the exact second when the lessons can be implanted in the > DNA.The lessons become genetic, part of the great DNA time table, every > base pair in the double helix, getting ready for creating the basic > connecting concepts to understand the lessons. It is just like the Higgs > field where the Higgs Bosons sprouted, in just nano seconds. The couple > must treat the sex as the vital time to remember the lessons, for which > they must prepare at least for an year, and concentrate only on the lessons > and treat the birth of the zygote with the DNA as their Big bang. > > 2) Mr Educationist champions the feeding of the child with only the > mother’s milk. According to him, the mother’s milk contains the lessons she > learnt, and she will be actually feeding the child with the vital lessons. > The mother must prepare definite times for the feeds, for the Physics feed, > when she remembers the Physics lessons, the Chemistry feed time when she > remembers the Chemistry lessons and Mathematics feed time for mathematics. > As the child may also appear for the Doctor’s JEE,there must be specific > feed times for those subjects also. > > 3) The great educationist, has developed a clear module for training > in the Abhimanyu innovation---during the time when the zygote and the DNA > in it big bangs, during the pregnancy when the mothers sit in the > classrooms, to enable the child in the womb learn, and after delivery > during the growth of the Child, when it is fed with mother’s milk only. > > > > Proud of his great innovations he applied for the President’s Best > Teacher Award, as he also was in the staff of a college located with a > Kirana shop, in a very busy locality. > > YM > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CACDCHCJvcXD--VkujsPBOZNh2nAti9WVH3EEFuzUodbboOsGAA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CACDCHCJvcXD--VkujsPBOZNh2nAti9WVH3EEFuzUodbboOsGAA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL5XZoqbQGo7ZFsky-9E8%3DPPZetRRZ4p0-ztef9cXg9UBgi81g%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL5XZoqbQGo7ZFsky-9E8%3DPPZetRRZ4p0-ztef9cXg9UBgi81g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAPYPc1562gJ_yebooszc%2Bnu%3DEL1fWKGA-Wb94N1YJx1540gtLA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAPYPc1562gJ_yebooszc%2Bnu%3DEL1fWKGA-Wb94N1YJx1540gtLA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAOSW9WsExzVi2B87yLoNko9Ua-oz8C_jHbmwjgXL2zg7xfpzqQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAOSW9WsExzVi2B87yLoNko9Ua-oz8C_jHbmwjgXL2zg7xfpzqQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > > > -- > *Mar* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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