Pranam
Indian Rediff answer is advaitic. If advaitham is understood and
within it, Rediff is god one only who cannot answer at all; the question of
light speed etc does not arise at all; hence reply is perfect subject to
the world of Maya amd forum where we do exist and none of us are GOD. Where
the perceiver and the perceived cannot see each other and one and the same
there there is no speed light etc at all; so also this forum in existence;
hope I made myself clear. Therefore there is no stoppage of GOD SIMPLY IS
THE UNIVERSE THOUGH THAT IS THE TRUTH. aAlso sirs, one shall remember,THE
MAYA is also the GOD and only when superimposed the advaitham would arise;
hence only the visishtadvaitham and the dvaitham are accepted. That is why
Krishna in B G says ONLY ONE IN A MILLION REACH ME; rest as Sir Rediff said
Punarapi maranam jananm. As long as the karma and the cyclic life exist as
MAYA and we are not coming out of it, GOD is speedier than the light where
the light is the MaYa. K R IRS 4321
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 09:07, Indian Rediff <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sir,
>
> You should stop with this statement:
>
> God simply is the Universe
>
> And the correct answer is, the Universe comes from Brahman - implying
> thereby that Brahman is more than just the Universe. Brahman is everything.
> According to the Upanishads (which are in a condensed form in the Bhagavad
> Gita) Brahman is formless, changeless, attributeless and cannot be
> described. How can one that is defined in such a manner have any material
> interaction? Hence, the reset of your sentence is meaningless.
>
> Sai
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 8:43 PM Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> God simply is the Universe,with a quantum nervous system,where the
>> particles are subject to quantum entanglement,where the speed of light is
>> exceeded several times.
>> YM
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 9:11 PM Indian Rediff <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Pardon me all senior folks. Please forgive me if my response is
>>> meaningless.
>>>
>>> Hindu philosophy, at the highest levels, does not deal with matter.
>>> Light, quanta, other particles, why, the very space within which these
>>> exist - are all considered to be matter (jada). Asking a question like God
>>> and speed of light, is like asking what is the taste of blue color. Or,
>>> conversely, the color of the malli poo vasanai (only fragrance - not the
>>> actual flower). Both are meaningless questions.
>>>
>>> From my understanding of the scriptures (unfortunately, I am not
>>> knowledgeable enough to quote from them), the Vedas are like a sixth form
>>> of knowledge acquiring mechanism (as opposed to the first five senses,
>>> which are essentially knowledge acquiring mechanisms). You need this sixth
>>> form, because the knowledge that youa re acquiring, is not material (made
>>> of matter). Once acquired, you will know that Brahman, is one and the only
>>> one and there is no other one and is present in everyone.
>>>
>>> Now - I know this from an intellectual perspective. I also know that it
>>> is going to take many lifetimes to have this veil of ignorance lifted and
>>> be rid of 'punarapi jananam, punarapi maranam'.
>>>
>>> Thus, to ask whether God can go faster than light is to mistake the very
>>> concept of God as being made of matter. After all, you can only compare
>>> like with like.
>>>
>>> Sai
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:04 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pranam
>>>> Sir Shri SKBji I do not understand; every question may have an
>>>> answer ; but we may not be aware of it; if am asked, I would invite more
>>>> angels to stand one upon another; ignorance is revealed if they are cover
>>>> ups too; so atom ,quanta, entangle all jargons are explainable if micro
>>>> can be explained. And why and who is not practicing humility here?. Never
>>>> mind sir. As a scientist even you may have an answer. Thank you K R IRS
>>>> 3321
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 18:05, Sithamalli Balasubramanian <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is as good as asking "How many angels can stand on a square
>>>>> foot of land." There is no answer. There are many cover-ups for ignorance.
>>>>> Let us practice humility.
>>>>> Skb.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 16:09, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> pRANAM
>>>>>> Had a jab 1 over; quantum entanglement 2 only after 28 days; so
>>>>>> just opened and saw the straight question quantum entanglement. Sri
>>>>>> SKBji
>>>>>> sir said he does not like the word quanta; because it is as imaginary as
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> binomial theorem and the true but confusing E=MC2; on the outset, I am
>>>>>> editing to present as short as possible from 345 pages of my notes ,
>>>>>> filtered to 23 pages and trying to reduce still; may release next week;
>>>>>> this is elaborating the right dot perception of Sri YM on CONSCIOUSNESS
>>>>>> done a few days back. When we say that so for the entire science was
>>>>>> expanded in samskritham long ago as verses to learn as poem, know a
>>>>>> meaning
>>>>>> superficially; then learn to deduce the meaning in depth. What I am
>>>>>> trying
>>>>>> is such analysis rendered already in our scriptures crossing the
>>>>>> quantum entanglement; or else ESR theory would not have arisen nor bell's
>>>>>> inequality; Bohr, Schrodinger all said that Indian Upanishads explored
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> quantum jump and entanglements in mundaka Upanishad itself;
>>>>>> 2 2 10 Mundaka II, Khanda II
>>>>>> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/mundaka-upanishad-shankara-bhashya/d/doc145109.html>
>>>>>> न तत्र सूर्यो भाति न चन्द्रतारकं नेमा विद्युतो भान्ति कुतोऽयमग्निः
>>>>>> । तमेव भान्तमनुभाति सर्वं तस्य भासा सर्वमिदं विभाति ॥ १० ॥
>>>>>>
>>>>>> na tatra sūryo bhāti na candratārakaṃ nemā vidyuto bhānti
>>>>>> kuto'yamagniḥ | tameva bhāntamanubhāti sarvaṃ tasya bhāsā sarvamidaṃ
>>>>>> vibhāti || 10 ||
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 10. The sun shines not there, nor the moon and the stars. Nor do
>>>>>> these lightnings shine. How could this fire? All shine after him who
>>>>>> shines. All this is illumined by his radiance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Verse 2.2.11 Mundaka II, Khanda II
>>>>>> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/mundaka-upanishad-shankara-bhashya/d/doc145109.html>
>>>>>> ब्रह्मैवेदममृतं पुरस्ताद्ब्रह्म पश्चाद्ब्रह्म दक्षिणतश्चोत्तरेण ।
>>>>>> अधश्चोर्ध्वं च प्रसृतं ब्रह्मैवेदं विश्वमिदं वरिष्ठम् ॥ ११ ॥
>>>>>>
>>>>>> brahmaivedamamṛtaṃ purastādbrahma paścādbrahma dakṣiṇataścottareṇa |
>>>>>> adhaścordhvaṃ ca prasṛtaṃ brahmaivedaṃ viśvamidaṃ variṣṭham || 11 ||
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 11. All this before is immortal *Brahman*; certainly all behind is
>>>>>> *Brahman*; all to the south and to the north; all bellow and all
>>>>>> alone stretched out, *i.e.*, extended, all this is certainly
>>>>>> *Brahman*, the highest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Verse 3.1.1 Mundaka III, Khanda I
>>>>>> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/mundaka-upanishad-shankara-bhashya/d/doc145121.html>
>>>>>> द्वा सुपर्णा सयुजा सखाया समानं वृक्षं परिषस्वजाते । तयोरन्यः पिप्पलं
>>>>>> स्वाद्वत्त्यनश्नन्नन्यो अभिचाकशीति ॥ १ ॥
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dvā suparṇā sayujā sakhāyā samānaṃ vṛkṣaṃ pariṣasvajāte | tayoranyaḥ
>>>>>> pippalaṃ svādvattyanaśnannanyo abhicākaśīti || 1 ||
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Two inseparable companions of fine plumage perch on the self-same
>>>>>> tree. One of the two feeds on the delicious fruit. The other not tasting
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> it looks on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3 1 1 Two birds entangled same phenomena soul one Jeevatma another
>>>>>> Paramatma distanced and closely; one eats another observes; one does
>>>>>> not do anything and the other does; one acting in one axis in one
>>>>>> direction; and the other in the negative strides; at a time both cannot
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> perceived even if one is measured by wave and color still any one
>>>>>> only is visible; its a stretch as a quantum entanglement. The Brahmam is
>>>>>> behind; to the south, to the north all below and all stretched out;
>>>>>> extended.
>>>>>> wave or particle travelling at speeds unnoticeable. There is no sun moon
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> starts nor the lightnings How could theer be the light illumined?. B G
>>>>>> raises a similar one. Brahadaranyaka amd Hatho does that. all arose from
>>>>>> the rig vedam Nasadiya suktham. Now i stop. I am trying also whether
>>>>>> quantum and entanglement could be described as a story so that other than
>>>>>> few of us many may understand and connecting to our scriptures. I need
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> do anything. Already the elders of our land as well as the world
>>>>>> scientists
>>>>>> had done that. spooky it is. K R IRS 3321
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 12:32, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What about quantum entanglement?
>>>>>>> YM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:17 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pranam
>>>>>>>> Science always writes like the present media; the media writes
>>>>>>>> or speaks for 30 minutes on the address to contact, without revealing
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> the time, and at the end forgetting to tell. So too the science of
>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>> They talk tall but add in between subjects, cannot be sure, may need
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> etc etc and why would they present a paper at all? All the if and buts
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> could read there. Techyon they say but say went into darkness; einstein
>>>>>>>> said and not said etc. But I am certain that we said it long ago that
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> are many spheres, space, darkness, suns and moons, objects that could
>>>>>>>> travel faster than 186000 miles per second etc. And the west refuse to
>>>>>>>> accept and raise their vocal chord and finally end it with the if and
>>>>>>>> buts.
>>>>>>>> They say at the end: “Light thinks it travels faster than anything
>>>>>>>> but it is wrong. No matter how fast light travels, it finds the
>>>>>>>> darkness
>>>>>>>> has always got there first, and is waiting for it.” So they know
>>>>>>>> darkness can travel faster than the light. And unless the black hole
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> the negative energy and speed faster than the light, what went in or at
>>>>>>>> least the light shall emit out but it is not so. And HE is GOD only
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> he is the light and the Darkness (all the positive and negative
>>>>>>>> aspects are
>>>>>>>> HIS) ; and nasadiya suktham was clear about it even if T H Griffith
>>>>>>>> translation is bad; also ESWARA CHANDRA VIDYASAGAR AS A kid proved the
>>>>>>>> existence of the god only like that; when I said nasthi contained the
>>>>>>>> asthi
>>>>>>>> some member made fun of me. That is the truth. Pususha and the
>>>>>>>> prakruthi
>>>>>>>> Maya are one and the same. Only because he is the darkness can travel
>>>>>>>> faster than light and show the light to wait; what he can do or not HE
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> not prove the fragile humanity but it is vice-versa only. The late
>>>>>>>> Dawkins
>>>>>>>> admitted the impracticality of the singularity theory which is a
>>>>>>>> rightful
>>>>>>>> admission of change. K R IRS 1321
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 09:53, Rangarajan T.N.C. <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://theconversation.com/can-the-laws-of-physics-disprove-god-146638
>>>>>>>>>
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