Thank you for your extreme thanks giving for all things done so far; as I
told you I never do anything; nandrum theethum pirar thara vaara; after all
your words if hurted you , it is my misfortune indeed; where indirect and
direct taxes are not levied, CBDT does not interfere in  anyone's affairs;
thank you for the average relishments and highly appreciate your pruning
hearings. Thanks again  K R to LNS 123 upto infinity group and others

On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 at 17:03, Laxminarayan Sarma <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Most Respected Brahmasri Rajaram Krishnamurthy, IRS, *123* to *Infinity*
> avargaley thank you for so obligingly spelling my name and surname the way
> it should be spelled. However do me another favor: kindly oblige me by
> de-fusing my name from my surname
> Please do me another favour: kindly keep me out of your puerile mud-sling
> match because I want none of it
>
> I strongly feel, no, I am sure you are averse to receiving even genuine
> positives as can be evidenced from your  derisive contemptuous reference to
> my  innocuous use of  *kings English or queen's English *in paying
> compliments to you.
>
> Once again, please cease making personal allusions to me. The wise step
> will be in your own interest
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ,
> please keep me out of your mud-sling
>
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Aug, 2023, 2:31 pm Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sure colLaxminarayansarmaji. However issues I have told already do crop
>> up when punches are formed by yourself. Do exclaim your friends by name;
>> but writing Nethas etc do not point to them. So write boldly and take it
>> back . What you pay so you receive sir. I never start anything but I do not
>> allow weeds to grow under my feet. Even now you have not stated why seeking
>> annas ,on a certain topic, remained silent even after seeing a part reply.
>> So whereas the letters say neutral, punches are passed with favouritism. As
>> long as you treat it as strict business I do not bother . So be may it be
>> Whether Queen or King English sir Thank you KR IRS 18 823
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Aug 2023 at 11:39, Laxminarayan Sarma <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> KR-ji  , you've now turned your guns at me. Never mind. I shall take
>>> every whiplash from a lesrned, senior scholar like  you as a lesson, a
>>> blessing.
>>>
>>> But, with due respect, my knowledge of and command over the Queen's
>>> English (now King's English), as compared to yours,  is rudimentary, almost
>>> non-existent. As to my felicity with the keyboard of my Android, it is
>>> lousy. Yiu will definitely appreciate that a hand that has wielded guns,
>>> cannot be as delicate and supple as the one that has wielded high-end
>>> pens...so it's obvious that I'm guilty of typos.
>>>
>>> *But i take care of one thing: spelling of names. The biggest indignity,
>>> disrespect and insult you can inflict on a man is mis-spelling his name.
>>>
>>> You're an erudite scholar treading the path of brahma shastras; not an
>>> ordinary, uncouth, barely educated like me. Would respectfully suggest if
>>> you please spare a few precious seconds of your precious time, you will
>>> notice that i spell my surname *WITHOUT* an *H *! It is soelt *S-A-R-M-A
>>> NOT *  S-*H*-A-R-M-A
>>>
>>> *I sincerely trust you will kindly condescend to do me a great favour by
>>> spelling my name correctly in your highly erudite scholarly treatisez that
>>> you so obligingly post in the forum for the enlightment, education,
>>> edification and, at times, entertainment of lesser mortals like this most
>>> humble servant of yours*
>>>
>>> *Col. Laxminarayan SaRMA*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Aug, 2023, 10:10 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy, <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am ADDRESSING THIS IN RESPONSE TO LAKSHMINARAYANA SHARMAJI's satvika
>>>> request. I ack but Mr Sharmaji are you doing this unilaterally or
>>>> bilaterally? Impartially or partially?  Is it because having read the whole
>>>> episodes , right from the beginning, you felt your Annas are so honest
>>>> purushas who are insulted by me or you feel that they can do anything but I
>>>> have to remain silent? Than nenjarivadhu poyyarkka. When you wrote "NETAs
>>>> should you not remember it does apply to you also sir? So if I write a 3rd
>>>> rate material, keemayanam of Annadurai, will you all reply calmly without
>>>> getting incited? Do not be smart as smarthas are long dead. Non-Niyathas
>>>> cannot comment about the nethas. Do not worship humans; what bhagavatam
>>>> speaks about how one dwija shaall react is: Mata pita guru deivam are
>>>> worshipful; but throw them off if they go against the dharma and Vedas.  If
>>>> you refer you will find it by yourself. If you refer to your email when
>>>> you wrote :"netha", can you spell properly the few words you wrote there?
>>>>  I am not at all jibing at you sir; I ignored them as it is common for all;
>>>> but here I brought iti to your attention to explain the fellow to whom you
>>>> are trying to defend here, writes such nonsense jibings but gets wild when
>>>> cornered as his level is shallow, but I cannot pass as someone shall act as
>>>> police or else thieves will plunder. Why did he not write about your wrong
>>>> spellings?; because you are GOD? ; NO ; pancha tantra; even at 79 and 97.
>>>> If your 88 wants to join them pl do so but be prepared to share the booty
>>>> sir. You wrote one similar to your anna and what you got back and went
>>>> silent. One who knows that he does not know is better. If you would like
>>>> the relationship of Moodan and moorgan and the crocodiles as close, please
>>>> have them and have a taste . But unless you are neutral and courageous
>>>> enough to shut out all fronts please do not disturb annas. Have courage to
>>>> fight then you are a Brahmin. Or else  think so and lead your life in
>>>> silence. Thank you sir KR IRS 18 8 23
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 at 22:01, Laxminarayan Sarma <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear RK , Loved your write-up. You write well .But would it be too
>>>>> much to ask far if i request you to kindly confine to the subject . Not
>>>>> detract from it by bringing in references to anybody. And, for heaven's
>>>>> sake, please stop being disrespectful toeards  the venerable 97 year old
>>>>> gentleman..It goes against the tenets of Sanatana Dharma. The elderly
>>>>> gentleman is a Father Figure to most of us, seen and experienced more of
>>>>> the world. Regardless of snything, I would take it in my stride every
>>>>> uttersnce of such an elderly gentleman as a blessing. That is what my
>>>>> ancestors, my elders and my peers have yaught me. And i always abide by
>>>>> what i have imbibed as part of my upbringing and culture.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, sir, kindly hold your horses.. Words spoken in haste will cause us
>>>>> to repent at leisure.
>>>>>
>>>>> With respectful regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Laxminarayan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Aug, 2023, 6:33 pm 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123, <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Respected Mr Rajaram,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You may have hatred and anger, show it to your family members, not
>>>>>> on me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would not take much time to call you an idiot and fool.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But my culture does not permit to  call you so. *You have no culture
>>>>>> at all. You are unfit to be called a former IRS. *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Next time you get anger show it your family members*. They will
>>>>>> retard to you, at least ten times you are using including your grand 
>>>>>> kids.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is an upper limit to one's patience. Are you not ashamed to
>>>>>> lower down to call another idiot and fool? Shame on you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gopalakrishan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 17 August, 2023 at 01:33:57 pm IST, Rajaram
>>>>>> Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As usual when Gopalakrishnan blabbers, and Narayanasamy naragal
>>>>>> abuses without any knowledge of the subject, they will write either one 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> one or within iyer 123 with few members, out of which a few in
>>>>>> conglomeration of their out focussed company. Gopalakrishnan always
>>>>>> floundered down below the earth as he knew the route very well as he 
>>>>>> alone
>>>>>> distinguished where is earth and where is hell south etc.  That
>>>>>> Gopalkrishna fool of an Ass did not understand, whether nachiketa going 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hell is written by Narayanasamy or myself. That senile idiot of Singapore
>>>>>> at 97 cannot distinguish the foreign on earth and the rest travel in 
>>>>>> space.
>>>>>> For that Kid anything outside his bed is foreign so maybe it is. Hello
>>>>>> Gopala, I know your knowledge is shallow. But your write up below south 
>>>>>> etc
>>>>>> you should have learnt better. Where is the earth? Below Moon or SUN?
>>>>>> Gopalakrishnan this map is for you ; find out up or down this earth where
>>>>>> you live before going to foreign[below the earth]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you know directions in space? [image: image.png]
>>>>>>          Kathopanishad etymology
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Katha (Sanskrit: कठ) literally means "distress". Katha is also the
>>>>>> name of a sage, credited as the founder of a branch of the Krishna
>>>>>> Yajur-veda, as well as the term for a female pupil or follower of Kathas
>>>>>> school of Yajurveda. Katha Upanishad uses words that symbolically embed 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> creatively have multiple meanings. For example, a closely pronounced word
>>>>>> *Katha* (Sanskrit: कथा) literally means "story, legend,
>>>>>> conversation, speech, tale" All of these related meanings are relevant to
>>>>>> the Katha Upanishad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nachiketa, the boy and a central character in the Katha Upanishad
>>>>>> legend, similarly, has closely related words with roots and meanings
>>>>>> relevant to the text. The language Sanskrit,  suggests *Na- kṣiti*
>>>>>>  and *Na- aksiyete*, which are word plays of and pronounced similar
>>>>>> to Nachiketa, means "non-decay, or what does not decay", a meaning that 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> relevant to second boon portion of the Nachiketa story. Similarly, *Na-
>>>>>> jiti* is another word play and means "that which cannot be
>>>>>> vanquished", which is contextually relevant to the Nachiketa's third
>>>>>> boon. Another variation to Nachiketa, with etymological roots that is
>>>>>> relevant to Katha Upanishad: the word *Na-ciketa* also means "I do
>>>>>> not know, or he does not know". Some of these Sanskrit word plays are
>>>>>> incorporated within the Upanishads text.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like Taittiriya Upanishad of Yajurveda, each section of the Katha
>>>>>> Upanishad is called a *Valli* (वल्ली), which literally means a
>>>>>> medicinal vine <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vine>-like climbing
>>>>>> plant that grows independently yet is attached to a main tree. This
>>>>>> symbolic terminology is apt and likely reflects the root and nature of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Upanishads in Black Yajur Veda, which too is largely independent of the
>>>>>> liturgical Yajur Veda, and is attached to the main text. THUS, HOW THE
>>>>>> ELDERS INTERPRETED KATHOPANISHAD CAN BE SEEN FROM BANARSIDAS 
>>>>>> PUBLICATIONS.
>>>>>> Out of wits in foreign land and those who think up and down to earth are
>>>>>> foreign, will learn how a foreign mind can think from the elders’’ notes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           The Upanishad opens with the story of Vajasravasa, also
>>>>>> called *Aruni Auddalaki Gautama*, who gives away all his worldly
>>>>>> possessions. However, his son Nachiketa (Sanskrit: नचिकेता) sees the 
>>>>>> charitable
>>>>>> sacrifice as a farce, because all those worldly things have already
>>>>>> been used to exhaustion, and are of no value to the recipients. The cows
>>>>>> given away, for example, were so old that they had 
>>>>>> 'drank-their-last-water'
>>>>>> (पीतोदकाः), 'eaten-their-last-grass' (जग्धतृणाः), 'don't give milk' (
>>>>>> दुग्धदोहाः), 'who are barren' (निरिन्द्रियाः). {KR All these words
>>>>>> fit those think interpreting foreigners} [peethodaga, jagatthruna,
>>>>>> nirindriya etc] Concerned, the son asks his father,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Dear father, to whom will you give me away?"
>>>>>> He said it a second, and then a third time.
>>>>>> The father, seized by anger, replied: "To Death, I give you away."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> — Nachiketa, Katha Upanishad, 1.1.1-1.1.4
>>>>>> [image: image.png][image: image.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kasmai mam dasyaSEETHI? IS THE QUESTION OF Nachiketa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mrthyeva tva datam iti.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  HE IS GIVEN AS DATHAM BY FATHER TO YAMA; MEANING AS ANOTHER DEAD
>>>>>> WOOD AS NACHIKETA THOUGHT THAT HIS FATHER IS GIVING AS GIFT ALL OLD USED
>>>>>> ARTICLES. NACHIKETA DID NOT GO TO A FOREIGN AS DEFINED BY THE N AND G 
>>>>>> FOR COMMERCIAL
>>>>>> PURPOSE; HE WAS THROWN OUT AS OLD ARTICLE AS GIFT BY HIS FATHER.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       So karka kasadara and then write K R IRS 17 8 23
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, 17 Aug 2023 at 11:45, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Respected sir,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15th August when he wrote Too my friends, and when I pointed out
>>>>>> that it must be to , Mr Rajaram  gave justification for using Too in his
>>>>>> response.Similarly  for use of lose instead of lost he will respond with 
>>>>>> *justification
>>>>>> for using lose*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "travelling through *space *from bhoolokam to yamalokam?" - he has
>>>>>> wrote. As per  concept in Hinduism I understand Yamalokam is beneath the
>>>>>> bhoolokam, how it will be above bhoolokam to travel through space?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Naraka (Sanskrit: नरक), also called Yamaloka, is the Hindu
>>>>>> equivalent of Hell, where sinners are tormented after death. It is also 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> abode of Yama, the god of Death. It is described as located *in the
>>>>>> south of the universe and beneath the earth*" as per *google search*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How space comes to the picture?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gopalakrishnan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition some abusing as response to your questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, 17 August, 2023 at 11:11:44 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear folks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to his own flawed reasoning:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (1) did Nachiketass "lose caste" (whatever that idiotic phrase might
>>>>>> mean) by travelling through space from bhoolokam to yamalokam?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (2) did reprobate renegade blasphemer and unschooled uneducated
>>>>>> master-fibber K RAJARAM  ex-IRS 16 8 23 "lose caste" similarly by
>>>>>> travelling from India to Californuia, USA, and "lose caste" again
>>>>>> irretrievably by travelling to Hawaii?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can he honestly and without prevarication, evasion and lying answer
>>>>>> the following questions:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (3) was he ever of the braahmana "caste" since he never underwent any
>>>>>> of our samskaarams including jaatha karmam, naama karanam, 
>>>>>> anna-praashanam,
>>>>>> chaulam, ear-piercimg, aayushya-homam, upanayanam, vivaaham?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (4) did he or did he not condemn, despise, denigrate, insult,
>>>>>> discredit all vaadhyaars without whom he could not have any of these
>>>>>> samskaarams performed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (5) has he ever heard of the kriya called the vichinnaagni santhaanam?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (6) does he know why, by whom, and how it is performed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (7) did he marry according to the rules prescribed for Brahmins and
>>>>>> Hindus, involving the sapthapadi circumambulation of the agni, or did he 
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> a prosaic civil act before a government officer such as an assistant
>>>>>> registrar or a registrar and proceed to consummation?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (8) does he know what is the "naandi" ritual performed before
>>>>>> upanayanam, vivaaham, shraaddham, shashti-abda-poorthi, and 
>>>>>> sathabhishekam?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (9) does he know by whom and for whom and why is it performed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (10) does he know what is agnihothram?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (11) if so, which has he performed, and on what occasion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 11:42 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Section IX - Meditation on the Vaisvanavara Fire
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chapter V
>>>>>> <https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-brihadaranyaka-upanishad/d/doc122185.html>
>>>>>>  *Verse
>>>>>> 5.9.1: Brahadaranyaka Upanishad*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Kathopanishad Vaishvanaram verse of Nachiketa speaks about the
>>>>>> yagnam the Vedic must perform, connecting his soul to the fire agni @
>>>>>> Vaisnavara=human Agni. Vedam oduvarrkku ore mazhai means the strict 
>>>>>> vediyar
>>>>>> addicted to being a Brahmin. The Vaishvanaran who begets th fire on the
>>>>>> Brahma yagnam, must preserve it till death when his atman gets purified 
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> that Agni. Hence Crossing the ocean is prohibited for the tri varnas and
>>>>>> especially to the true Brahmin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    The prohibition is clearly stated in several scriptures. The
>>>>>> Baudhayana Sutra, one of the Hindu Dharma Shastras, says that “making
>>>>>> voyages by sea” (II.1.2.2) is an offense which will cause pataniya,
>>>>>> loss of caste. It offers a rather difficult penance: “They shall eat
>>>>>> every fourth mealtime a little food, bathe at the time of the three
>>>>>> libations (morning, noon and evening), passing the day standing and the
>>>>>> night sitting. After the lapse of three years, they throw off their 
>>>>>> guilt.”
>>>>>> Harsha Ramamurthy in his erudite article on the issue, explains that,
>>>>>> according to Baudhayana Sutra, the highest authority in deciding a 
>>>>>> question
>>>>>> of dharma is shruti, our primary scriptures, the Vedas and Agamas. Next 
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the smriti, the secondary scriptures, which include the Dharma Shastras.
>>>>>> Third is sampradaya, the teachings and practices of a specific lineage. 
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> concludes, “ because of the bans in smriti and sampradaya, such travel is
>>>>>> considered a banned activity.” He added that the ban applies to all three
>>>>>> upper castes, and not just brahmins. It also applies to sannyasins, 
>>>>>> who–in
>>>>>> his tradition–can only be from the brahmin caste.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Why the ban?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the Baudhayana Sutra, the ban is discussed in the context of a
>>>>>> description of the geographical limits of India which concludes that 
>>>>>> within
>>>>>> its boundary “spiritual pre-eminence is found.” Generally, two reasons 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> given by scholars for the ban. The first is that it is impossible to
>>>>>> maintain one’s required daily religious observances on a ship, 
>>>>>> particularly
>>>>>> thrice-daily personal worship. The second is that one will incur the sin 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> mlecchas samparka, usually politely translated as mixing with foreigners.
>>>>>> Mlecchas, however, is more accurately translated as “barbarian” or
>>>>>> “savage.” “I am told,” he said, “that there is a penance to be performed
>>>>>> when a sannyasin or priest crosses the ocean. The existence of this 
>>>>>> penance
>>>>>> shows that as per the need and their own deeper vision, a sannyasin or
>>>>>> priest can cross the ocean to preserve and make his mother religion
>>>>>> flourish. *But this should not be done for any materialistic need.”*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Dr. A.V. Ramana Dikshitulu, head priest of the Balaji Temple in
>>>>>> Tirumala, one of India’s most respected and popular pilgrimage
>>>>>> destinations, said, “None of our priests who serve in the main sanctum 
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> cross the ocean. Neither I nor any member of my family have done so,
>>>>>> despite lucrative offers from abroad. Serving the Lord here is most
>>>>>> important to us. The Balaji Temple is governed by the Vaikhanasa Agama. 
>>>>>> It
>>>>>> says that the people outside India are akin to mlecchas, barbarians, who 
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> not follow any rules or code of conduct, and therefore it forbids 
>>>>>> visiting
>>>>>> such places. These places have habits, food, relationships and other 
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> which could make us corrupt and impure.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            sunrise, midday and sunset, called trikal gayatri
>>>>>> sandhya,” he explained. “*This trikal sandhya cannot be performed on
>>>>>> a plane or ship; it must be done on the earth.” *Dr. Ramana
>>>>>> Dikshitulu does not specifically rule out “crossing” an ocean, for he
>>>>>> himself flies occasionally from Chennai to Kolkata, a flight which goes 
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> over the Bay of Bengal. But as that flight is only two hours long, he 
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> not miss his trikal sandhya as he would on a longer flight or a voyage by
>>>>>> ship, and he does not land outside India. *He was unaware of any
>>>>>> penance to offset crossing the ocean.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           Clearly the Dharma Shastras’ ban on ocean travel was
>>>>>> intended to maintain the religious strength and purity of the individual,
>>>>>> and to prevent negative external influence from non-Hindu cultures. Other
>>>>>> cultures had the same concern. One can note that the very word barbarian
>>>>>> (used to translate mleccha with a strongly negative connotation), just
>>>>>> meant “foreigner,” in the original Greek, yet came to describe an
>>>>>> uncultured or brutish person. Baudhayana Sutra makes the point more than
>>>>>> once to delineate ancient India’s boundaries and declare it a sacred land
>>>>>> out of which one should not step
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *       Hence Nachiketa Vaisvanara concept  eduvated by Dharma Raja
>>>>>> applied to Brahmins who did not cross the ocean and for such alone ore
>>>>>> mazhai is possible. Brahadaranyaka Upanishad states as under: *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> अयमाग्निर्वैश्वानरो योऽयमन्तः पुरुषे, येनेदमन्नं पच्यते यदिदमद्यते;
>>>>>> तस्यैष घोषो भवति यमेतत्कर्णावपिधाय शृणोति; स यदोत्क्रमिष्यन्भवति नैनं
>>>>>> घोषं शृणोति ॥ १ ॥
>>>>>> इति नवमं ब्राह्मणम् ॥
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ayamāgnirvaiśvānaro yo'yamantaḥ puruṣe, yenedamannaṃ pacyate
>>>>>> yadidamadyate; tasyaiṣa ghoṣo bhavati yametatkarṇāvapidhāya śṛṇoti; sa
>>>>>> yadotkramiṣyanbhavati nainaṃ ghoṣaṃ śṛṇoti || 1 ||
>>>>>> iti navamaṃ brāhmaṇam ||
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. This fire that is within a man and digests the food that is
>>>>>> eaten, is Vaiśvānara. It emits this sound that one hears by stopping the
>>>>>> ears thus. When a man is about to leave the body, he no more hears this
>>>>>> sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is another meditation like the preceding ones. *This fire is
>>>>>> Vaiśvānara.* Which fire? This *that* is *within a man.* Is it the
>>>>>> element fire that is one of the components of the body? No, it is the one
>>>>>> called Vaiśvānara, which *digests the food.* Which food? The food *that
>>>>>> is eaten* by men. That is to say, the heat in the stomach. For
>>>>>> direct sign of it the text says: As that fire digests the food, *it
>>>>>> emits this sound. *What is it? *That one hears by stopping the ears
>>>>>> thus,* with one’s fingers. The word ‘Etat’ is an adverb (meaning
>>>>>> ‘thus’). One should meditate upon that fire as Vaiśvānara, or Virāj. Here
>>>>>> too the result is identification with it. Incidentally a death omen is
>>>>>> being described: *(When a man,* the experiencer in this body *is
>>>>>> about to leave the body, he no more hears this sound*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> K RAJARAM  IRS   16 8 23
>>>>>>
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