Gopala stupid is enraged as he is in the open unable to defend; and Narayana porukkis stupefied unable to even find new abusive words as exhausted ; they are worth only that much; and as long as the gutters pour, I have to call a spade a spade.
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 at 01:13, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > A fine example of the pot calling the kettle black, when it is the pot > (that needs to be keeled urgently) that shamelessly and deliberately > started the ruckus. > > *The **whole society is laughing at Rajaram K alias K Rajaram alias K R > ex-IRS alias Karuppan-chaami alias NAYUNDA MAVEN misbegotten tailless > puppy and son of a stray rabies-infected mad dog replying to Sri > Gopalakrishna using filthy language, because the son-of-a-dog is dancing > naked in public under the spotlights on an otherwise empty stage.* > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > > > On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 1:04 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mr Rajaram, >> >> Y*ou are mad. Call yourself bogus IRS. I will not respond to mad.* >> >> Gopalakrishnan >> >> On Monday, 29 January, 2024 at 10:27:45 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Then you must be that fraud Gopalakrishnan. Bogus. ITS. Who does not >> respond but writes like a pertaining rowdy. Mrs hc judge might have been >> also bogus like you. Gopala whole society is laughing at you but like mad >> dog replying to me. Why you don't send it to all? All the three write only >> within you? I am sending it to all so they will know about you well. >> Pertaining bogus ITS vazhga K. R >> >> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 9:42 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Mr Rajaram, >> >> Be calm. Answer to questions. Just raising your voice will not be the >> answer. *I can write in the same tone. But I am very cultured and >> civilized than you.* After committing a grave mistake, you are trying to >> justify yourself. At least from now on-wards be a good and civilized man. >> *Every >> member in the group is LAUGHING AT YOU*. >> >> *It is funny to read, you can comment on my postings, but I cannot write >> about your postings. Are there two rules for you and me? * >> >> Once any member post anything in internet, others have right to comment >> on it.Please understand internet rulings. >> >> I have watched the news item of a *Madras high court judge who made >> wrong judgements on becoming mad and never admitting it.* Finally he >> was admitted to mental hospital and all court decisions were altered by >> proper judges. >> >> You are worse than that judge. Your mail to me proves it. Again I request >> to you to be calm. *Please stop abusing or keep quiet.* You are becoming >> a *big fool* by this type of responses. >> >> Gopalakrishnan >> >> On Monday, 29 January, 2024 at 07:36:49 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Gopalakrishnan either you are a cheat or u r trying all kinds of tricks >> to be always evasive. My question simply to you , is, what bothers you what >> I use as my stamp? Who the hell are you to write ex IRS or Y Irs etc? it >> is none of your business. Who are you? That is my question. And who are you >> to comment about my IRS or English or Tamil or anything? Who the hell are >> you? That you never answered. When you intrude in my privacy you have to >> suffer END. I will not refrain from or stay off etc.Sivaraman did not read >> all your pathos, green messages. When some croon writes about my mother all >> are only bastards as it is my retort. Stay off looking after your business >> within the content area then the front will be quiet. Don't act too smart. >> Mani was also writing about you and now perhaps got fed up. So know your >> limit and circle. You are no one to me as I am to you END KR IRS 28124 >> >> On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 18:38, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> *Respected Mr Rajaram,* >> >> *Since you are defending what you wrote is correct-Just because I wrote >> former IRS, you wrote bogus ITS.* >> >> >> *Are you not a former IRS? What is wrong in my writing so? * >> >> >> *Just because I wrote former IRS , you wrote Bogus ITS? * >> >> *Are you mentally OK?. Better see a good doctor instead of writing again >> and again foolish things in the forum. * >> >> *Please don't make me write bogus IRS. * >> >> *Always you are defending nature. Mr Sivaraman former IAS wrote to you >> not to use "bastard" in your mails, after observing you were frequently >> using it. I read your mail justifying it to him. * >> >> >> *No mentally alright persons will do these type of things. * >> >> >> *There is no wonder everyday again and again, you try to defend, and >> getting more and more kicks. * >> >> >> *Are you not ashamed still you are barred from posting in iyer123 group?* >> >> Gopalakrishnan >> >> On Sunday, 28 January, 2024 at 09:24:53 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Mr Gopalakrishnan is not only a stupid, brainless and visionless, but >> also partial forcing himself with the Duryodhanas. How blatantly he lies >> before Sekar? He writes diplomatically, trying to impress others, LN Sarma >> writes only because I do write which is not only a lie but >> misrepresentation. I hit whenever they appear with words of abuse TIT FOR >> TAT. Whenever they are silent, I will never open anything at all. But the >> three idiots always have nothing in content and feels cornered ashamedly, >> and only tool they have is writing abuses one after the other within a >> small group so that others may not be aware of it. Clever stooges. So only >> I present them to all so that every one knows their standards and by this >> time many would have known which twig is causing the tether. One idiot as >> partial as G pulled out the wrong twig and thereafter was never in the >> scene. Bias IS TE CAUSE AND BIAS HAD NEVER WON THE WAR EVEN IF FOUGHT TILL >> LIFE TIME. G writes here as, “But all such abusing mails are having a >> background connected with Mr Rajaram.” {It ought to have been >> Background connected with Sarma and Narayana and self G.} >> >> How cleverly Gopala plays his cards thinking sitting all around >> are fools of the first degree? He writes,” Filthy and immoral language >> start from Mr Rajaram.” “How can Mr Rajaram write Bogus ITS about me?” It >> is an open and shut case. WHO WROTE IN TESE COLUMNS “Ex IRS”? Is it his job >> or some angel played the card in the past decades? In what way he is >> concerned about my pseudo-presentation of title? Why he was offended? Once >> he tarnishes the image by opening the account, my turn starts; why would I >> bother what was he or what did he do? unless he pokes; poking is also an >> abuse; is there any limit in calling some one idiot and you are not >> intelligent? will the last phrase become unabusive but direct one abusive? >> And why G takes additional adding fire or does not ask them to shut out, >> where women and mother are all dragged in; perhaps for Gopalakrishnan >> lexicon says personal is abusive and for others it is not? Stupid >> Gopalakrishnan fits squarely for him. So as long as he writes directly and >> indirectly all abusive language, he will get back 100 times. If he is >> meddling with mine, his is only a bogus ITS only. IF SOMEONE WISHES GOOD >> THINGS TO HAPPEN, HE MUST SHOW FIRST HIS GOODNESS. A CONTENT AGAINST >> CONTENT, NOT BY DENYING OR PLACING THE BLAME ON SOMEONE ELSE, ON CAN >> ESCAPE; BUT PROVE BY EVIDENTIARY CONTENT; THERE HE IS GLOWING Don’t I do >> it? So do not feign as 3 personals showing the tail here and head there. >> Gopalkrishnan is a fraud. >> >> What nonsense Gopala writes that Sarma and Narayana >> regretted? Regretted means they offended me. If so they shall refrain from >> later regret, But writing again nonsense as usual in many languages >> including texts of abuses, will only get back the Astras they sent, back to >> them. Don’t play Gopalakrishna you fox tales. OK? So never do crocodiles >> act. Change all of you here at least 5 are there. Show by your evidential >> talent instead of lament and Netis Thank you I am not tired of you though I >> could stay off. But there must be a police force to protect the society or >> else thieves and goondas spread over. >> >> K Rajaram IRS 28 1 24 >> >> NB I never defend or do falsity; they are all your assets. Drop all your >> weapons; the front will become quiet. Because except a few, all others have >> no back bones. And so I have to Thank You >> >> On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 at 21:07, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dear Mr Sekar, >> >> I am forwarding my response to Mr Rajaram, though you would have read it >> already. >> >> I have seen your response to Mr LN Sarma. *I fully agree to the point >> you have mentioned about widows.* >> >> I never favor Mr LN Sarma's language. But all such abusing mails are h*aving >> a background connected with Mr Rajaram. * >> >> I think these types mails may better exchanged between them.* I never >> use an abusive word, but in response many times Mr Rajaram uses abusive >> language. Satirical or defending is OK. * >> >> Dear Mr Sekar, please say- How can Mr Rajaram write Bogus ITS about me? How >> much time it will take me to call him Bogus IRS?. Filthy and immoral >> language start from Mr Rajaram. >> >> Once again, I never favour Mr Sarma's language or the particular point >> about widows. Can you write a mail to Mr Rajaram, to stop abusive >> language? He will never agree and say tit for tat. >> >> Please note-* Mr Narayanaswamy and Mr Sarma has regretted for filthy >> language in the groups.But instead of making a regret message for abusing >> and filthy language, he made a statement- WHY SHOULD I ?* >> >> Gopalakrishnan >> >> On Sunday, 28 January, 2024 at 07:25:28 am IST, 'gopala krishnan' via >> KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Respected Mr Rajaram, >> >> Will there be an end of using singular addressing and abusing in your >> life time? I am sure you will not reach Paramapadam, but pathalam, if >> you continue abusing like this. You are compelling others also to make >> singular usage. >> Gopalakrishnan >> >> On Saturday, 27 January, 2024 at 09:22:32 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Oh Narayanasamy and co are non vegetarians and drunkards as admitted in >> foreign they go to cat houses? That is what I also wrote. Kutramulla nenju >> padapadaikirathu? The guilty consciousness inflicts? Truth is bitter >> Narayana enda dont you know this Sumban >> >> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 23:54, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Dear folks >> >> With nothing to say, rogue and charlatan refugee from iyer123 Rajaram K >> alias KR ex-IRS alias Cockroachmoorthy nevertheless rants and raves about >> nothing. His last words are worth noting:- >> >> "*Brahmins by becoming the other varna guna vibaga adopters, and eating >> non veg and drinks changed the whole concept of topsy-turvy*." >> >> If this is a confession of "mea culpa", in KR ex-IRS' usual >> drain-gutter-sewer ungrammatical broken English, why boast about it? >> >> Don't some non-practising "so-called braahmaanas" today keep and visit >> cathouses, and, when abroad, give in to the temptation to sleep with >> foreign women? >> >> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 9:50 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Snake biting its own tail is a word of subterfuge. History is only that. >> My grandfather defeated your grandfather and so you enter into my nation >> to covet it back. That is natural. As long as dharma was the ruler of the >> 56 nations in India, there were fear to offend anyone; but Islamic invasion >> and the British rule made the DIVIDE AND RULE POLICY; there the brahmins >> were patronised because of their intelligence; and the Brahmins >> thought they are fro Head and so they can do anything against the feet; The >> Kshatriyas did the same thing; and in effect, agraharam and outlaws enter >> the field of residence. Trivandrum Rajas brought laws to have the >> virudhunagar Nadar women then , not to wear any blouse. So much atrocity >> was brought over by the brahmins and the kshatriyas. This was made use of >> to capture the power by Politicians and the landlords of the north, to >> provoke the people against Brahmins and oppress the 4th varnas in the >> north. South became dravida and communist rulers; North still continued to >> hold power of the rich. In the South , a new history started; non brahmins >> now showing their hatred towards the 4th varna but Brahmins started >> migrating. What we sow , so we reap. And Brahmins by becoming the other >> varna guna vibaga adopters, and eating non veg and drinks changed the whole >> concept of topsy-turvy. KR IRS 26 1 24 >> >> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 19:06, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Dear folks >> >> "*Yes, the reservation system hurts the talented but decades of >> oppressed ones need some crutches before they can start walking on their >> own. It has gone on for far too long and too far but who will bell the >> cat? N Sekar"* >> >> >> Sri N Sekar's arguments often have the quality and reality of a snake >> biting its own tail. >> >> In the above clarion call to battle he only reminds one of the equally >> spurious argument:- >> >> "*Your great-grandfather kicked my great-grandfather centuries ago; so >> I am kicking you now.*" >> >> Bell what cat? Just trap it with mouse-meat, and drown it in the nearest >> stream. >> >> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> >> >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- >> *From:* "Narayanaswamy Sekar" <[email protected]> >> *To:* "Srinivasan Sridharan" <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* "Patty Thatha" <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:58 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: Comedy of errors-reg >> Thanks Srinivasan Sir. >> >> 1. We can't deny, however much we try, that certain sections were >> suppressed and oppressed, not by brahmins alone but more so by the other so >> called upper castes. >> >> 2. Until as recently as a decade back there were some villages in T N >> where their womenfolk cannot wear blouses but cover their upper body only >> with their sarees. >> Their men cannot wear chappels nor can they put their towels over their >> shoulders - that needs to be tied to their hips. >> >> These rules were applied when they had to cross over the so called upper >> caste areas. >> >> There are still some temples in T N where they are not allowed to enter. >> What we forget is that these practices also contribute to conversions >> though other religions also practice the same evil of caste >> discrimination, but more subtly. >> >> Why do you think the blacks are given preference under Affirmative Action >> in the U S? >> >> 3. It is true Rama did not give any part of his kingdom to others but >> neither was there these kinds of atrocities and blatant violation of >> human rights - all in the name of castes. >> >> Even today in T N villages there is subtle, unannounced discrimination >> being practiced but not by brahmins ( they have migrated to the cities) but >> by the dominant so called upper caste folks in that area. >> >> Yes, the reservation system hurts the talented but decades of oppressed >> ones need some crutches before they can start walking on their own. It has >> gone on for far too long and too far but who will bell the cat? >> >> >> N Sekar >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 10:40 PM Srinivasan Sridharan < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> *Dear Sri Sekar,* >> >> * I have some opinion on the issue of reservation* >> * which I thought I would tell.* >> * Sama Dharma is a part of Sanathana Dharma.* >> * It means every Jeevathma should be respected equally,* >> * since Paramathma resides in all Jeevathmas. It means respect* >> >> * not only human beings but also other living beings.* >> * However reservation is for preferring some scheduled castes * >> * and tribe people be given Govt jobs in preference to people* >> * of other castes, overlooking the possibility of incompetence.* >> * in some of those who have been given such Govt jobs.* >> * It has nothing to do with Social equality or mutual respect* >> * of all human beings! It of course gives those people a chance* >> >> * to have better material life than what their ancestors had ! That is >> all!* >> * Sri Rama wholeheartedly accepted* >> >> * a person (Guha) from the hunter tribe and a monkey (Sugreeva)* >> * and a Rakshasa (Vbheeshana ) as his own brother ! This is Samadharma!* >> * Sri Rama did not give any part of the Kosala Kingdom to Guha* >> *or Sugreeva or Vibhishana even though he offered the same to* >> * Bharatha, Lakshmana and Shathrugna who are also his brothers.* >> * Dharma is subtle, especially Sama Dharma !* >> >> * Sridharan.* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:24 AM Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: *'N Sekar' via iyer123* <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 4:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: Comedy of errors-reg >> To: <[email protected]>, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> Thanks Sri G K. >> >> Equality does not mean everyone should be of the same standard - >> physically, materially, financially etc. >> >> It does not also mean that everyone should be reduced to the lowest >> common denominator. >> >> It just means we treat all as human beings and extend the courticies to >> them as we would expect them to do to us. Basic courtesy and Decency in >> treating all is all that it means. >> >> Yes we have hierarchies in the office but that does not give us the right >> to treat our subordinates as your slaves. Everyone craves for dignity and >> respect and we should recognize that fact. >> >> " Do unto others as what you would have them do unto you" >> Is the maxim any cultured and civilized person is expected to follow. >> >> Even in the Mahabharata we have the story of how Durupathan insulted >> Drona ( asking Drona how a poor brahmin can claim to be friends with a >> king like Durupatha) and the consequences. >> >> Arrogance leads to downfall sooner or later. >> >> It is worth remembering Satya Sai Bagahwan's words " End of Education is >> Humility". >> >> Re: why we have reservations, the short answer is " Affirmative Action" >> is a pre requisite to uplift the unfortunate, poorer sections of society. >> But unfortunately it has degenerated into caste issues in our country and >> no party dare touch it lest the affected section changes its votes - >> Vote bank politics in different forms and shapes and colors. We can't >> deny though that some sections of the society were oppressed and suppressed >> and the inevitable backlash is more than one expected. That's why 10% >> reservation for the poor so called upper class is a welcome step. Poverty >> knows no caste or religion. >> >> >> N Sekar >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:39 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Mr Sekar, >> >> I forgot to add one thing. I have read else where Gayathree manthra was >> there already, Sage Viswamithra put it in a new chandas. >> >> All sages had rivalries between them, sage Brahaspathi, and sage Sukra >> are examples . Sage Viswamithra had pride . It made him Rajarshi, and he >> became Devarshi after loosing his pride. >> >> On Wednesday, 24 January, 2024 at 10:32:29 am IST, 'gopala krishnan' via >> iyer123 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Dear Mr Sekar, >> >> I have gone through your response. >> >> In that case why the Government of India still follows caste and >> religion? >> >> Even after 76 years why the Government of India still keeps reservation >> for BC, SC and ST for concessions and reservations? >> >> Even with in the religion why difference between castes? >> >> If all are humans and equal, (It should be) all the above and many more >> are to be changed. >> >> As homo sapiens, by nature it is very difficult to change animal >> qualities with in all of us. These animal qualities are responsible for all >> the problems in the world/countries/ states/ among people. >> >> One person feels he is superior. Another's views are ignored. There is >> no tolerance. Then only equality. >> >> I recollect an incidence from Ramayana. I cannot quote sarga /kanda. Once >> Seetha devi asked Sri Rama why people are not made equal. I desire so. Sri >> Rama with a smile made every body equal. Different sects of people forgot >> their duties. They simply enjoyed life. >> >> A leakage occurred in the palace. A search was made. No masons to attend. >> Sita understood the folly. Sri Rama changed the maya created. Masons >> appeared. Immediately the leakage was attended to. >> >> So I feel we can have *some sort of equality in standard of living,* not >> fully. I have read articles about present day Russia, still there are >> catagories of people doing different works, the person doing menial jobs >> may have better standard of living than one do red collar jobs or ordinary >> jobs. >> Gopalakrishnan >> >> >> On Wednesday, 24 January, 2024 at 09:28:27 am IST, 'N Sekar' via >> KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Thank you both Sri G K and Sri Sridharan and a couple of others who did >> not cc the group for reasons all well known. At least they responded. >> >> Without elaborating ( as it will be found sensitive and will touch raw >> nerves) let me just say - based on my knowledge gained from reading, >> listening to and my own reflection of what I read and listened to. >> >> I understand there will be different opinions BUT I strongly feel all of >> us are humans and hence deserve to be treated as such - there is no >> question of superiority or inferiority. >> >> Each of us have a job to do and let us do it. There is something called " >> Dignity of Labour". >> >> Also, different sects follow different customs and we can't judge others >> by what we do. >> >> Let us do what we do and let them do what they do. Who are we to dictate >> to others and impose our practices on others esp because none of us ( in a >> general sense) contributed anything in the struggle of 500 years - we may >> have sent donations to the Trust as I have, BUT that is not equal to the >> struggles they had put up - just watch the dead bodies of the kar sevaks >> bring pulled up / dragged from the Sarayu river and you will realize the >> price they had paid. >> >> Whether what they did was right or wrong is for another day- they felt >> suppressed by the invaders and then by our own sicular crowd who will not >> hesitate to sell the Nation for a few votes - and that crowd includes the >> so called brahmins. >> >> So they are fully entitled to decide where, when and how the ceremonies >> will be conducted and by who. It is their customs and we are outsiders as >> far as their practices go. If we don't like what they do let us not witness >> or visit them - nobody compelled any one else. >> >> Will we tolerate if they come and tell us how to do Kumbabhidhekam on our >> temples? If the answer is No then let us not comment on their practices. >> >> So let us not interfere with what is essentially their function - they >> toiled for it, paid for it with their lives even, and let them garner all >> the glory that is legitimately theirs. >> >> Just leave them alone. >> >> We are just not entitled to pass critical remarks without contributing >> anything. >> >> Let us remember that the paths we take may differ but ultimately the >> Destination is the same. Methods differ but Purpose is One. >> >> I again repeat- I prostrate a thousand times to all those responsible for >> this magnificent Temple, reflecting our glorious heritage, and that >> includes all the Kar Sevaks who gave their lives. Day before yesterday when >> I was watching it I prayed for their souls and lovingly and respectfully >> remembered them. >> >> Just a couple of remarks on your two mails. >> >> 1. Varnas and not Jathis, are based on one's occupation and is not by >> birth. >> If it is by birth then the Greatest Mantra - Mother of All Mantras, >> Gayathri Mantra, was actually given by a Kshahtriya called Viswamitra who >> through TAPAS, >> AND NOT BY BIRTH, became a Brahma Rishi and is now addressed >> respectfully as Sage Vuswamitra. >> >> 2. If, for argument's sake, just for argument's sake, we consider the >> 4th varna as coming from His Feet ( while some claim superiority because >> they think they came from HIS FACE), then let me point out >> >> In the Vishnu Temples the "Sadari" that we so respectfully and with >> devotion accept to be placed on our heads represents HIS FEET. >> >> So if we claim the 4th Varna came from His Feet, it is those Feet that we >> willingly place on our heads. >> >> It was Rama's Padhukas that ruled Ayodhya for 14 years and not a replica >> of His Face. >> >> Need I say more? >> >> I will stop here sir as I know arguments are futile. I believe strongly >> in Karma and hence I would not demean anyone. Who knows what we were in our >> previous births and what we will be in our next? >> >> I feel it is in all our interest to >> Give respect and Get Respected. "You get what you give" and so let us >> take care in what we give. >> >> Regards >> >> N Sekar >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> >> >> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:56 AM, gopala krishnan >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Mr Sekar, >> >> Since you provided copy to groups on your response to the mail on the >> above topic from Mr Narayanaswamy, I felt I may express a few thoughts came >> to me on reading it. >> >> I was getting mails from Kanchimatam as *Deivathin kural *during 1998's. >> I recollect Periyavar stating birth is by caste and not by actions. 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