Gopala then why do you respond to say I wont respond; childish. Bogus ITS. KR
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 23:04, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Mr Rajaram, > > Y*ou are mad. Call yourself bogus IRS. I will not respond to mad.* > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Monday, 29 January, 2024 at 10:27:45 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Then you must be that fraud Gopalakrishnan. Bogus. ITS. Who does not > respond but writes like a pertaining rowdy. Mrs hc judge might have been > also bogus like you. Gopala whole society is laughing at you but like mad > dog replying to me. Why you don't send it to all? All the three write only > within you? I am sending it to all so they will know about you well. > Pertaining bogus ITS vazhga K. R > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2024, 9:42 PM gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Mr Rajaram, > > Be calm. Answer to questions. Just raising your voice will not be the > answer. *I can write in the same tone. But I am very cultured and > civilized than you.* After committing a grave mistake, you are trying to > justify yourself. At least from now on-wards be a good and civilized man. > *Every > member in the group is LAUGHING AT YOU*. > > *It is funny to read, you can comment on my postings, but I cannot write > about your postings. Are there two rules for you and me? * > > Once any member post anything in internet, others have right to comment on > it.Please understand internet rulings. > > I have watched the news item of a *Madras high court judge who made > wrong judgements on becoming mad and never admitting it.* Finally he was > admitted to mental hospital and all court decisions were altered by proper > judges. > > You are worse than that judge. Your mail to me proves it. Again I request > to you to be calm. *Please stop abusing or keep quiet.* You are becoming > a *big fool* by this type of responses. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Monday, 29 January, 2024 at 07:36:49 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Gopalakrishnan either you are a cheat or u r trying all kinds of tricks > to be always evasive. My question simply to you , is, what bothers you what > I use as my stamp? Who the hell are you to write ex IRS or Y Irs etc? it > is none of your business. Who are you? That is my question. And who are you > to comment about my IRS or English or Tamil or anything? Who the hell are > you? That you never answered. When you intrude in my privacy you have to > suffer END. I will not refrain from or stay off etc.Sivaraman did not read > all your pathos, green messages. When some croon writes about my mother all > are only bastards as it is my retort. Stay off looking after your business > within the content area then the front will be quiet. Don't act too smart. > Mani was also writing about you and now perhaps got fed up. So know your > limit and circle. You are no one to me as I am to you END KR IRS 28124 > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 18:38, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > *Respected Mr Rajaram,* > > *Since you are defending what you wrote is correct-Just because I wrote > former IRS, you wrote bogus ITS.* > > > *Are you not a former IRS? What is wrong in my writing so? * > > > *Just because I wrote former IRS , you wrote Bogus ITS? * > > *Are you mentally OK?. Better see a good doctor instead of writing again > and again foolish things in the forum. * > > *Please don't make me write bogus IRS. * > > *Always you are defending nature. Mr Sivaraman former IAS wrote to you > not to use "bastard" in your mails, after observing you were frequently > using it. I read your mail justifying it to him. * > > > *No mentally alright persons will do these type of things. * > > > *There is no wonder everyday again and again, you try to defend, and > getting more and more kicks. * > > > *Are you not ashamed still you are barred from posting in iyer123 group?* > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Sunday, 28 January, 2024 at 09:24:53 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Mr Gopalakrishnan is not only a stupid, brainless and visionless, but > also partial forcing himself with the Duryodhanas. How blatantly he lies > before Sekar? He writes diplomatically, trying to impress others, LN Sarma > writes only because I do write which is not only a lie but > misrepresentation. I hit whenever they appear with words of abuse TIT FOR > TAT. Whenever they are silent, I will never open anything at all. But the > three idiots always have nothing in content and feels cornered ashamedly, > and only tool they have is writing abuses one after the other within a > small group so that others may not be aware of it. Clever stooges. So only > I present them to all so that every one knows their standards and by this > time many would have known which twig is causing the tether. One idiot as > partial as G pulled out the wrong twig and thereafter was never in the > scene. Bias IS TE CAUSE AND BIAS HAD NEVER WON THE WAR EVEN IF FOUGHT TILL > LIFE TIME. G writes here as, “But all such abusing mails are having a > background connected with Mr Rajaram.” {It ought to have been Background > connected with Sarma and Narayana and self G.} > > How cleverly Gopala plays his cards thinking sitting all around > are fools of the first degree? He writes,” Filthy and immoral language > start from Mr Rajaram.” “How can Mr Rajaram write Bogus ITS about me?” It > is an open and shut case. WHO WROTE IN TESE COLUMNS “Ex IRS”? Is it his job > or some angel played the card in the past decades? In what way he is > concerned about my pseudo-presentation of title? Why he was offended? Once > he tarnishes the image by opening the account, my turn starts; why would I > bother what was he or what did he do? unless he pokes; poking is also an > abuse; is there any limit in calling some one idiot and you are not > intelligent? will the last phrase become unabusive but direct one abusive? > And why G takes additional adding fire or does not ask them to shut out, > where women and mother are all dragged in; perhaps for Gopalakrishnan > lexicon says personal is abusive and for others it is not? Stupid > Gopalakrishnan fits squarely for him. So as long as he writes directly and > indirectly all abusive language, he will get back 100 times. If he is > meddling with mine, his is only a bogus ITS only. IF SOMEONE WISHES GOOD > THINGS TO HAPPEN, HE MUST SHOW FIRST HIS GOODNESS. A CONTENT AGAINST > CONTENT, NOT BY DENYING OR PLACING THE BLAME ON SOMEONE ELSE, ON CAN > ESCAPE; BUT PROVE BY EVIDENTIARY CONTENT; THERE HE IS GLOWING Don’t I do > it? So do not feign as 3 personals showing the tail here and head there. > Gopalkrishnan is a fraud. > > What nonsense Gopala writes that Sarma and Narayana regretted? > Regretted means they offended me. If so they shall refrain from later > regret, But writing again nonsense as usual in many languages including > texts of abuses, will only get back the Astras they sent, back to them. > Don’t play Gopalakrishna you fox tales. OK? So never do crocodiles act. > Change all of you here at least 5 are there. Show by your evidential talent > instead of lament and Netis Thank you I am not tired of you though I could > stay off. But there must be a police force to protect the society or else > thieves and goondas spread over. > > K Rajaram IRS 28 1 24 > > NB I never defend or do falsity; they are all your assets. Drop all your > weapons; the front will become quiet. Because except a few, all others have > no back bones. And so I have to Thank You > > On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 at 21:07, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Mr Sekar, > > I am forwarding my response to Mr Rajaram, though you would have read it > already. > > I have seen your response to Mr LN Sarma. *I fully agree to the point you > have mentioned about widows.* > > I never favor Mr LN Sarma's language. But all such abusing mails are h*aving > a background connected with Mr Rajaram. * > > I think these types mails may better exchanged between them.* I never use > an abusive word, but in response many times Mr Rajaram uses abusive > language. Satirical or defending is OK. * > > Dear Mr Sekar, please say- How can Mr Rajaram write Bogus ITS about me? How > much time it will take me to call him Bogus IRS?. Filthy and immoral > language start from Mr Rajaram. > > Once again, I never favour Mr Sarma's language or the particular point > about widows. Can you write a mail to Mr Rajaram, to stop abusive > language? He will never agree and say tit for tat. > > Please note-* Mr Narayanaswamy and Mr Sarma has regretted for filthy > language in the groups.But instead of making a regret message for abusing > and filthy language, he made a statement- WHY SHOULD I ?* > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Sunday, 28 January, 2024 at 07:25:28 am IST, 'gopala krishnan' via > KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Respected Mr Rajaram, > > Will there be an end of using singular addressing and abusing in your life > time? I am sure you will not reach Paramapadam, but pathalam, if you > continue abusing like this. You are compelling others also to make > singular usage. > Gopalakrishnan > > On Saturday, 27 January, 2024 at 09:22:32 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Oh Narayanasamy and co are non vegetarians and drunkards as admitted in > foreign they go to cat houses? That is what I also wrote. Kutramulla nenju > padapadaikirathu? The guilty consciousness inflicts? Truth is bitter > Narayana enda dont you know this Sumban > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 23:54, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear folks > > With nothing to say, rogue and charlatan refugee from iyer123 Rajaram K > alias KR ex-IRS alias Cockroachmoorthy nevertheless rants and raves about > nothing. His last words are worth noting:- > > "*Brahmins by becoming the other varna guna vibaga adopters, and eating > non veg and drinks changed the whole concept of topsy-turvy*." > > If this is a confession of "mea culpa", in KR ex-IRS' usual > drain-gutter-sewer ungrammatical broken English, why boast about it? > > Don't some non-practising "so-called braahmaanas" today keep and visit > cathouses, and, when abroad, give in to the temptation to sleep with > foreign women? > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 9:50 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Snake biting its own tail is a word of subterfuge. History is only that. > My grandfather defeated your grandfather and so you enter into my nation > to covet it back. That is natural. As long as dharma was the ruler of the > 56 nations in India, there were fear to offend anyone; but Islamic invasion > and the British rule made the DIVIDE AND RULE POLICY; there the brahmins > were patronised because of their intelligence; and the Brahmins > thought they are fro Head and so they can do anything against the feet; The > Kshatriyas did the same thing; and in effect, agraharam and outlaws enter > the field of residence. Trivandrum Rajas brought laws to have the > virudhunagar Nadar women then , not to wear any blouse. So much atrocity > was brought over by the brahmins and the kshatriyas. This was made use of > to capture the power by Politicians and the landlords of the north, to > provoke the people against Brahmins and oppress the 4th varnas in the > north. South became dravida and communist rulers; North still continued to > hold power of the rich. In the South , a new history started; non brahmins > now showing their hatred towards the 4th varna but Brahmins started > migrating. What we sow , so we reap. And Brahmins by becoming the other > varna guna vibaga adopters, and eating non veg and drinks changed the whole > concept of topsy-turvy. KR IRS 26 1 24 > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 at 19:06, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear folks > > "*Yes, the reservation system hurts the talented but decades of oppressed > ones need some crutches before they can start walking on their own. It has > gone on for far too long and too far but who will bell the cat? N Sekar"* > > > Sri N Sekar's arguments often have the quality and reality of a snake > biting its own tail. > > In the above clarion call to battle he only reminds one of the equally > spurious argument:- > > "*Your great-grandfather kicked my great-grandfather centuries ago; so I > am kicking you now.*" > > Bell what cat? Just trap it with mouse-meat, and drown it in the nearest > stream. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > > > > On Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 4:30 PM 'N Sekar' via KeralaIyers < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* "Narayanaswamy Sekar" <[email protected]> > *To:* "Srinivasan Sridharan" <[email protected]> > *Cc:* "Patty Thatha" <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thu, Jan 25, 2024 at 1:58 PM > *Subject:* Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: Comedy of errors-reg > Thanks Srinivasan Sir. > > 1. We can't deny, however much we try, that certain sections were > suppressed and oppressed, not by brahmins alone but more so by the other so > called upper castes. > > 2. Until as recently as a decade back there were some villages in T N > where their womenfolk cannot wear blouses but cover their upper body only > with their sarees. > Their men cannot wear chappels nor can they put their towels over their > shoulders - that needs to be tied to their hips. > > These rules were applied when they had to cross over the so called upper > caste areas. > > There are still some temples in T N where they are not allowed to enter. > What we forget is that these practices also contribute to conversions > though other religions also practice the same evil of caste > discrimination, but more subtly. > > Why do you think the blacks are given preference under Affirmative Action > in the U S? > > 3. It is true Rama did not give any part of his kingdom to others but > neither was there these kinds of atrocities and blatant violation of human > rights - all in the name of castes. > > Even today in T N villages there is subtle, unannounced discrimination > being practiced but not by brahmins ( they have migrated to the cities) but > by the dominant so called upper caste folks in that area. > > Yes, the reservation system hurts the talented but decades of oppressed > ones need some crutches before they can start walking on their own. It has > gone on for far too long and too far but who will bell the cat? > > > N Sekar > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 10:40 PM Srinivasan Sridharan < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *Dear Sri Sekar,* > > * I have some opinion on the issue of reservation* > * which I thought I would tell.* > * Sama Dharma is a part of Sanathana Dharma.* > * It means every Jeevathma should be respected equally,* > * since Paramathma resides in all Jeevathmas. It means respect* > > * not only human beings but also other living beings.* > * However reservation is for preferring some scheduled castes * > * and tribe people be given Govt jobs in preference to people* > * of other castes, overlooking the possibility of incompetence.* > * in some of those who have been given such Govt jobs.* > * It has nothing to do with Social equality or mutual respect* > * of all human beings! It of course gives those people a chance* > > * to have better material life than what their ancestors had ! That is > all!* > * Sri Rama wholeheartedly accepted* > > * a person (Guha) from the hunter tribe and a monkey (Sugreeva)* > * and a Rakshasa (Vbheeshana ) as his own brother ! This is Samadharma!* > * Sri Rama did not give any part of the Kosala Kingdom to Guha* > *or Sugreeva or Vibhishana even though he offered the same to* > * Bharatha, Lakshmana and Shathrugna who are also his brothers.* > * Dharma is subtle, especially Sama Dharma !* > > * Sridharan.* > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 4:24 AM Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *'N Sekar' via iyer123* <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, Jan 24, 2024, 4:51 PM > Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: Comedy of errors-reg > To: <[email protected]>, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < > [email protected]> > > > Thanks Sri G K. > > Equality does not mean everyone should be of the same standard - > physically, materially, financially etc. > > It does not also mean that everyone should be reduced to the lowest > common denominator. > > It just means we treat all as human beings and extend the courticies to > them as we would expect them to do to us. Basic courtesy and Decency in > treating all is all that it means. > > Yes we have hierarchies in the office but that does not give us the right > to treat our subordinates as your slaves. Everyone craves for dignity and > respect and we should recognize that fact. > > " Do unto others as what you would have them do unto you" > Is the maxim any cultured and civilized person is expected to follow. > > Even in the Mahabharata we have the story of how Durupathan insulted Drona > ( asking Drona how a poor brahmin can claim to be friends with a king like > Durupatha) and the consequences. > > Arrogance leads to downfall sooner or later. > > It is worth remembering Satya Sai Bagahwan's words " End of Education is > Humility". > > Re: why we have reservations, the short answer is " Affirmative Action" is > a pre requisite to uplift the unfortunate, poorer sections of society. But > unfortunately it has degenerated into caste issues in our country and no > party dare touch it lest the affected section changes its votes - > Vote bank politics in different forms and shapes and colors. We can't deny > though that some sections of the society were oppressed and suppressed and > the inevitable backlash is more than one expected. That's why 10% > reservation for the poor so called upper class is a welcome step. Poverty > knows no caste or religion. > > > N Sekar > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:39 AM, 'gopala krishnan' via KeralaIyers > <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Mr Sekar, > > I forgot to add one thing. I have read else where Gayathree manthra was > there already, Sage Viswamithra put it in a new chandas. > > All sages had rivalries between them, sage Brahaspathi, and sage Sukra are > examples . Sage Viswamithra had pride . It made him Rajarshi, and he became > Devarshi after loosing his pride. > > On Wednesday, 24 January, 2024 at 10:32:29 am IST, 'gopala krishnan' via > iyer123 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Dear Mr Sekar, > > I have gone through your response. > > In that case why the Government of India still follows caste and religion? > > Even after 76 years why the Government of India still keeps reservation > for BC, SC and ST for concessions and reservations? > > Even with in the religion why difference between castes? > > If all are humans and equal, (It should be) all the above and many more > are to be changed. > > As homo sapiens, by nature it is very difficult to change animal qualities > with in all of us. These animal qualities are responsible for all the > problems in the world/countries/ states/ among people. > > One person feels he is superior. Another's views are ignored. There is no > tolerance. Then only equality. > > I recollect an incidence from Ramayana. I cannot quote sarga /kanda. Once > Seetha devi asked Sri Rama why people are not made equal. I desire so. Sri > Rama with a smile made every body equal. Different sects of people forgot > their duties. They simply enjoyed life. > > A leakage occurred in the palace. A search was made. No masons to attend. > Sita understood the folly. Sri Rama changed the maya created. Masons > appeared. Immediately the leakage was attended to. > > So I feel we can have *some sort of equality in standard of living,* not > fully. I have read articles about present day Russia, still there are > catagories of people doing different works, the person doing menial jobs > may have better standard of living than one do red collar jobs or ordinary > jobs. > Gopalakrishnan > > > On Wednesday, 24 January, 2024 at 09:28:27 am IST, 'N Sekar' via > KeralaIyers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you both Sri G K and Sri Sridharan and a couple of others who did > not cc the group for reasons all well known. At least they responded. > > Without elaborating ( as it will be found sensitive and will touch raw > nerves) let me just say - based on my knowledge gained from reading, > listening to and my own reflection of what I read and listened to. > > I understand there will be different opinions BUT I strongly feel all of > us are humans and hence deserve to be treated as such - there is no > question of superiority or inferiority. > > Each of us have a job to do and let us do it. There is something called " > Dignity of Labour". > > Also, different sects follow different customs and we can't judge others > by what we do. > > Let us do what we do and let them do what they do. Who are we to dictate > to others and impose our practices on others esp because none of us ( in a > general sense) contributed anything in the struggle of 500 years - we may > have sent donations to the Trust as I have, BUT that is not equal to the > struggles they had put up - just watch the dead bodies of the kar sevaks > bring pulled up / dragged from the Sarayu river and you will realize the > price they had paid. > > Whether what they did was right or wrong is for another day- they felt > suppressed by the invaders and then by our own sicular crowd who will not > hesitate to sell the Nation for a few votes - and that crowd includes the > so called brahmins. > > So they are fully entitled to decide where, when and how the ceremonies > will be conducted and by who. It is their customs and we are outsiders as > far as their practices go. If we don't like what they do let us not witness > or visit them - nobody compelled any one else. > > Will we tolerate if they come and tell us how to do Kumbabhidhekam on our > temples? If the answer is No then let us not comment on their practices. > > So let us not interfere with what is essentially their function - they > toiled for it, paid for it with their lives even, and let them garner all > the glory that is legitimately theirs. > > Just leave them alone. > > We are just not entitled to pass critical remarks without contributing > anything. > > Let us remember that the paths we take may differ but ultimately the > Destination is the same. Methods differ but Purpose is One. > > I again repeat- I prostrate a thousand times to all those responsible for > this magnificent Temple, reflecting our glorious heritage, and that > includes all the Kar Sevaks who gave their lives. Day before yesterday when > I was watching it I prayed for their souls and lovingly and respectfully > remembered them. > > Just a couple of remarks on your two mails. > > 1. Varnas and not Jathis, are based on one's occupation and is not by > birth. > If it is by birth then the Greatest Mantra - Mother of All Mantras, > Gayathri Mantra, was actually given by a Kshahtriya called Viswamitra who > through TAPAS, > AND NOT BY BIRTH, became a Brahma Rishi and is now addressed respectfully > as Sage Vuswamitra. > > 2. If, for argument's sake, just for argument's sake, we consider the 4th > varna as coming from His Feet ( while some claim superiority because they > think they came from HIS FACE), then let me point out > > In the Vishnu Temples the "Sadari" that we so respectfully and with > devotion accept to be placed on our heads represents HIS FEET. > > So if we claim the 4th Varna came from His Feet, it is those Feet that we > willingly place on our heads. > > It was Rama's Padhukas that ruled Ayodhya for 14 years and not a replica > of His Face. > > Need I say more? > > I will stop here sir as I know arguments are futile. I believe strongly in > Karma and hence I would not demean anyone. Who knows what we were in our > previous births and what we will be in our next? > > I feel it is in all our interest to > Give respect and Get Respected. "You get what you give" and so let us > take care in what we give. > > Regards > > N Sekar > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=Global_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100000604&af_sub5=EmailSignature__Static_> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:56 AM, gopala krishnan > <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Mr Sekar, > > Since you provided copy to groups on your response to the mail on the > above topic from Mr Narayanaswamy, I felt I may express a few thoughts came > to me on reading it. > > I was getting mails from Kanchimatam as *Deivathin kural *during 1998's. > I recollect Periyavar stating birth is by caste and not by actions. 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