That's pretty much all I buy these days is trade paperbacks. And no, they
are not all b&w. If the publication was originally in color 99.9% of the
time they will be in color in the TPB also.

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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:

> i don't read comics any longer, haven't for probably 15+ years. That being
> said, it is established how "out of the loop" i am with regard to comics.
>
> So have Trade paperbacks become "the thing" now?  And when i say Trade
> paperback, is that the same thing as the collected group of single issues
> (or "pamphlets" as some are referring to them now based on the above...)
> that are not in color?
>
> Last D*C i was looking for a good collected edition of X-Men for Dr Jen and
> all i saw were these (what i call trade paperbacks) which had maybe 10-15
> issues of comics together but were not in color. I HATED that. If they are
> all just black and white that take a lot of the fun out of a comic...unless
> you want to give your kid a coloring book.
>
> I have seen collected issues in color also, but those tend to be
> significantly more expensive, have fewer issues compiled together and the
> publishers still seem to go out of their way to do "silly shit" to them like
> making a foil cover or some such junk.
>
> And Luke made mention that he is ridiculed for buying single issues, the
> implication being that he is propping up a dying relic. Really? Isn't there
> something to be said for collecting a comic any longer? If you get your
> comics in Trade Paperback or digital format there isn't the potential bonus
> of an issue actually increasing in value.
>  On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Oh and regarding "blog" -- I had a Livejournal for years, and never
>> called it a "blog."  It was my "journal" exclusively.  Still is, even
>> though I do not update anymore.
>>
>> But my two sites on Blogger?  I call them "blogs."  Mostly because by
>> the time I created them that was the accepted term and I never gave it
>> much thought.  Saying "my comics journal" or "my Hawkman journal"
>> sound strange now.
>>
>> ~Luke
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2:02 pm, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I was operating from an incorrect assumption when I responded to Van
>> > initially.  Like all humans I bring my own preconceptions and biases
>> > to a conversation.  One of the reasons I abandoned CGS was the over-
>> > abundance of "trade waiters" and their utter disdain for those of us
>> > who bought "pamphlets" and were not "evolving" to the current market
>> > by abandoning them entirely and were "propping up" a "dead" market.
>> >
>> > Nevermind the fact that now "spoiler range" extended literally for
>> > months if not YEARS after a story ended because the majority of
>> > posters were "waiting for the trade."
>> >
>> > I use the term "comics" almost exclusively.  I only use "singles" in
>> > the context of someone else buying a series in "trade."
>> >
>> > ~Luke
>> >
>> > On Jul 20, 1:43 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > It is weird how a term no one was using, (for 100 years we just called
>> them comic books or comic book magazines), will suddenly become the
>> "educated" way to discuss something.  I also dislike the term "pamphlets,"
>> but kids who never owned any can view them from a distance and see them for
>> the archaic old-media format they are.  Since single issues is how I bought
>> them for thirty years, I just saw them as comics and not as....product with
>> a product's name.  I thought I was a dude buying comics, but they see it as
>> a "Male in Meatspace Transacting for Pamphlets"
>> >
>> > > Another term like this is "blog" People who didn't keep an online
>> journal spread that one around, and then it was too late to fix it.  What a
>> gross and reductive word it is.
>> >
>> > > So, I think Van was just using a word he thought was up to date or
>> what all the kids were using.  He's obviously an old-school comics guy, but
>> is keeping with the times.  He's often very very wrong but I don't think he
>> was pretentious here.
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
>> > > To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]>
>> > > Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 1:55 am
>> > > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Re DC new #1s giant hardcover coming
>> >
>> > > I regretted posting that message after I did because I posted in anger
>> > > due to something else.  Hence why I removed it.  So my apologies.
>> >
>> > > My vehement objection is due partly to my bad mood.
>> >
>> > > It is also more attributed to the term being used as a perjorative by
>> > > a lot (like, A LOT) of comics fans online to deride buying individual
>> > > issues.  The idea being that a "pamphlet" is disposable and without
>> > > value.  Over at ComicGeekSpeak, for example, that's essentially a
>> > > codeword for "I buy in trades and if you don't you're a moron who is
>> > > killing our industry."
>> >
>> > > As a side note, its not an accurate statement, at least not according
>> > > to our wonderful federal government.  A "pamphlet" by the definition
>> > > of the Federal Depository Library Program is a monograph or what we
>> > > would call a one-shot.  Anything which is published on some regular
>> > > basis is called a "periodical."  (I spent nearly 3 years as a document
>> > > cataloger handling federal documents.)
>> >
>> > > I wouldn't take anything I say as being representative of the opinions
>> > > or feelings of anyone else on this group let alone the group in
>> > > general.  I don't know how much longer I'll be here anyway.
>> >
>> > > So use whatever term you would like.  I like the term "singles."  I
>> > > liken it to buying trading cards back in the day as "singles" as
>> > > opposed to "sets."
>> >
>> > > On Jul 20, 8:38 am, Van Allen Plexico <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > Topic:
>> > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 06:03AM -0700 ^
>> >
>> > > > > ...I much preferred buying
>> > > > > those TPBs to buying the individual pamphlet issues.
>> > > > >>Oh get over yourself. "Pamphlet," ugh. Do you want a latte with
>> your
>> >
>> > > > pretension?<<
>> >
>> > > > I'm not sure I get your meaning here, Luke. Disrespectful tone,
>> sure, but
>> > > meaning, not so much.
>> >
>> > > > That's a term we've used for years on the Avengers group, to
>> differentiate
>> > > between trade paperbacks/ hardcover collections of comics and
>> individual comics.
>> > > I prefer it to the more popular term, "floppies," but it's really all
>> the same--
>> > > indicating a very short, thin book(let) with no actual stiff cover and
>> few
>> > > pages.
>> >
>> > > > If it's not welcome in this community, I won't use it again.
>> >
>> > > > What is your apparently vehement objection to it?
>> >
>> > > > --Van
>> >
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