Well most of the titles I buy are DC so maybe Marvel is just too cheap to
reproduce in color.
Just kidding.
Yeah, most of the titles I buy are newer TPB, those from within the past 20
to 25 years, and they're, 99.99999% of time, in color.

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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:56 PM, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:

> Ed's percentage seems WAY too high to me, the collected issues of "bronze
> Age" or "formica age" (1980+) Marvel titles (including X-Men,
> Avengers, Hulk, etc) i was looking at were all in B&W. Is it possible that
> CURRENT or more current trades are in color, but older trades are in B&W?
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Cary Preston <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  I stopped buying single issues when the quality of the writing and art
>> took a nosedive in my favorite titles. It's a pain to store all those
>> issues, too- I'd much rather have the collected trades so if I want to
>> reread the story arc (and I often do) it's in one volume that can be kept on
>> a bookshelf, instead of multiple Mylar bags in a longbox hidden in a
>> closet.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>    i don't read comics any longer, haven't for probably 15+ years. That
>> being said, it is established how "out of the loop" i am with regard to
>> comics.
>>
>> So have Trade paperbacks become "the thing" now?  And when i say Trade
>> paperback, is that the same thing as the collected group of single issues
>> (or "pamphlets" as some are referring to them now based on the above...)
>> that are not in color?
>>
>> Last D*C i was looking for a good collected edition of X-Men for Dr Jen
>> and all i saw were these (what i call trade paperbacks) which had maybe
>> 10-15 issues of comics together but were not in color. I HATED that. If they
>> are all just black and white that take a lot of the fun out of a
>> comic...unless you want to give your kid a coloring book.
>>
>> I have seen collected issues in color also, but those tend to be
>> significantly more expensive, have fewer issues compiled together and the
>> publishers still seem to go out of their way to do "silly shit" to them like
>> making a foil cover or some such junk.
>>
>> And Luke made mention that he is ridiculed for buying single issues, the
>> implication being that he is propping up a dying relic. Really? Isn't there
>> something to be said for collecting a comic any longer? If you get your
>> comics in Trade Paperback or digital format there isn't the potential bonus
>> of an issue actually increasing in value.
>>  On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Luke < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh and regarding "blog" -- I had a Livejournal for years, and never
>>> called it a "blog."  It was my "journal" exclusively.  Still is, even
>>> though I do not update anymore.
>>>
>>> But my two sites on Blogger?  I call them "blogs."  Mostly because by
>>> the time I created them that was the accepted term and I never gave it
>>> much thought.  Saying "my comics journal" or "my Hawkman journal"
>>> sound strange now.
>>>
>>> ~Luke
>>>
>>> On Jul 20, 2:02 pm, Luke <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I was operating from an incorrect assumption when I responded to Van
>>> > initially.  Like all humans I bring my own preconceptions and biases
>>> > to a conversation.  One of the reasons I abandoned CGS was the over-
>>> > abundance of "trade waiters" and their utter disdain for those of us
>>> > who bought "pamphlets" and were not "evolving" to the current market
>>> > by abandoning them entirely and were "propping up" a "dead" market.
>>> >
>>> > Nevermind the fact that now "spoiler range" extended literally for
>>> > months if not YEARS after a story ended because the majority of
>>> > posters were "waiting for the trade."
>>> >
>>> > I use the term "comics" almost exclusively.  I only use "singles" in
>>> > the context of someone else buying a series in "trade."
>>> >
>>> > ~Luke
>>> >
>>> > On Jul 20, 1:43 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > It is weird how a term no one was using, (for 100 years we just
>>> called them comic books or comic book magazines), will suddenly become the
>>> "educated" way to discuss something.  I also dislike the term "pamphlets,"
>>> but kids who never owned any can view them from a distance and see them for
>>> the archaic old-media format they are.  Since single issues is how I bought
>>> them for thirty years, I just saw them as comics and not as....product with
>>> a product's name.  I thought I was a dude buying comics, but they see it as
>>> a "Male in Meatspace Transacting for Pamphlets"
>>> >
>>> > > Another term like this is "blog" People who didn't keep an online
>>> journal spread that one around, and then it was too late to fix it.  What a
>>> gross and reductive word it is.
>>> >
>>> > > So, I think Van was just using a word he thought was up to date or
>>> what all the kids were using.  He's obviously an old-school comics guy, but
>>> is keeping with the times.  He's often very very wrong but I don't think he
>>> was pretentious here.
>>> >
>>> > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > > From: Luke <[email protected]>
>>> > > To: The Unique Geek < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]>
>>> > > Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 1:55 am
>>> > > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Re DC new #1s giant hardcover coming
>>> >
>>> > > I regretted posting that message after I did because I posted in
>>> anger
>>> > > due to something else.  Hence why I removed it.  So my apologies.
>>> >
>>> > > My vehement objection is due partly to my bad mood.
>>> >
>>> > > It is also more attributed to the term being used as a perjorative by
>>> > > a lot (like, A LOT) of comics fans online to deride buying individual
>>> > > issues.  The idea being that a "pamphlet" is disposable and without
>>> > > value.  Over at ComicGeekSpeak, for example, that's essentially a
>>> > > codeword for "I buy in trades and if you don't you're a moron who is
>>> > > killing our industry."
>>> >
>>> > > As a side note, its not an accurate statement, at least not according
>>> > > to our wonderful federal government.  A "pamphlet" by the definition
>>> > > of the Federal Depository Library Program is a monograph or what we
>>> > > would call a one-shot.  Anything which is published on some regular
>>> > > basis is called a "periodical."  (I spent nearly 3 years as a
>>> document
>>> > > cataloger handling federal documents.)
>>> >
>>> > > I wouldn't take anything I say as being representative of the
>>> opinions
>>> > > or feelings of anyone else on this group let alone the group in
>>> > > general.  I don't know how much longer I'll be here anyway.
>>> >
>>> > > So use whatever term you would like.  I like the term "singles."  I
>>> > > liken it to buying trading cards back in the day as "singles" as
>>> > > opposed to "sets."
>>> >
>>> > > On Jul 20, 8:38 am, Van Allen Plexico <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > > > Topic:
>>> > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 06:03AM -0700 ^
>>> >
>>> > > > > ...I much preferred buying
>>> > > > > those TPBs to buying the individual pamphlet issues.
>>> > > > >>Oh get over yourself. "Pamphlet," ugh. Do you want a latte with
>>> your
>>> >
>>> > > > pretension?<<
>>> >
>>> > > > I'm not sure I get your meaning here, Luke. Disrespectful tone,
>>> sure, but
>>> > > meaning, not so much.
>>> >
>>> > > > That's a term we've used for years on the Avengers group, to
>>> differentiate
>>> > > between trade paperbacks/ hardcover collections of comics and
>>> individual comics.
>>> > > I prefer it to the more popular term, "floppies," but it's really all
>>> the same--
>>> > > indicating a very short, thin book(let) with no actual stiff cover
>>> and few
>>> > > pages.
>>> >
>>> > > > If it's not welcome in this community, I won't use it again.
>>> >
>>> > > > What is your apparently vehement objection to it?
>>> >
>>> > > > --Van
>>> >
>>> > > > Sent from my iPad
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