I stopped buying single issues when the quality of the writing and art took a nosedive in my favorite titles. It's a pain to store all those issues, too- I'd much rather have the collected trades so if I want to reread the story arc (and I often do) it's in one volume that can be kept on a bookshelf, instead of multiple Mylar bags in a longbox hidden in a closet.
On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:45 PM, Jason Service <[email protected]> wrote: > i don't read comics any longer, haven't for probably 15+ years. That being > said, it is established how "out of the loop" i am with regard to comics. > > So have Trade paperbacks become "the thing" now? And when i say Trade > paperback, is that the same thing as the collected group of single issues (or > "pamphlets" as some are referring to them now based on the above...) that are > not in color? > > Last D*C i was looking for a good collected edition of X-Men for Dr Jen and > all i saw were these (what i call trade paperbacks) which had maybe 10-15 > issues of comics together but were not in color. I HATED that. If they are > all just black and white that take a lot of the fun out of a comic...unless > you want to give your kid a coloring book. > > I have seen collected issues in color also, but those tend to be > significantly more expensive, have fewer issues compiled together and the > publishers still seem to go out of their way to do "silly shit" to them like > making a foil cover or some such junk. > > And Luke made mention that he is ridiculed for buying single issues, the > implication being that he is propping up a dying relic. Really? Isn't there > something to be said for collecting a comic any longer? If you get your > comics in Trade Paperback or digital format there isn't the potential bonus > of an issue actually increasing in value. > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > Oh and regarding "blog" -- I had a Livejournal for years, and never > called it a "blog." It was my "journal" exclusively. Still is, even > though I do not update anymore. > > But my two sites on Blogger? I call them "blogs." Mostly because by > the time I created them that was the accepted term and I never gave it > much thought. Saying "my comics journal" or "my Hawkman journal" > sound strange now. > > ~Luke > > On Jul 20, 2:02 pm, Luke <[email protected]> wrote: > > I was operating from an incorrect assumption when I responded to Van > > initially. Like all humans I bring my own preconceptions and biases > > to a conversation. One of the reasons I abandoned CGS was the over- > > abundance of "trade waiters" and their utter disdain for those of us > > who bought "pamphlets" and were not "evolving" to the current market > > by abandoning them entirely and were "propping up" a "dead" market. > > > > Nevermind the fact that now "spoiler range" extended literally for > > months if not YEARS after a story ended because the majority of > > posters were "waiting for the trade." > > > > I use the term "comics" almost exclusively. I only use "singles" in > > the context of someone else buying a series in "trade." > > > > ~Luke > > > > On Jul 20, 1:43 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > > > > > > > > It is weird how a term no one was using, (for 100 years we just called > > > them comic books or comic book magazines), will suddenly become the > > > "educated" way to discuss something. I also dislike the term > > > "pamphlets," but kids who never owned any can view them from a distance > > > and see them for the archaic old-media format they are. Since single > > > issues is how I bought them for thirty years, I just saw them as comics > > > and not as....product with a product's name. I thought I was a dude > > > buying comics, but they see it as a "Male in Meatspace Transacting for > > > Pamphlets" > > > > > Another term like this is "blog" People who didn't keep an online journal > > > spread that one around, and then it was too late to fix it. What a gross > > > and reductive word it is. > > > > > So, I think Van was just using a word he thought was up to date or what > > > all the kids were using. He's obviously an old-school comics guy, but is > > > keeping with the times. He's often very very wrong but I don't think he > > > was pretentious here. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Luke <[email protected]> > > > To: The Unique Geek <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wed, Jul 20, 2011 1:55 am > > > Subject: [The Unique Geek] Re: Re DC new #1s giant hardcover coming > > > > > I regretted posting that message after I did because I posted in anger > > > due to something else. Hence why I removed it. So my apologies. > > > > > My vehement objection is due partly to my bad mood. > > > > > It is also more attributed to the term being used as a perjorative by > > > a lot (like, A LOT) of comics fans online to deride buying individual > > > issues. The idea being that a "pamphlet" is disposable and without > > > value. Over at ComicGeekSpeak, for example, that's essentially a > > > codeword for "I buy in trades and if you don't you're a moron who is > > > killing our industry." > > > > > As a side note, its not an accurate statement, at least not according > > > to our wonderful federal government. A "pamphlet" by the definition > > > of the Federal Depository Library Program is a monograph or what we > > > would call a one-shot. Anything which is published on some regular > > > basis is called a "periodical." (I spent nearly 3 years as a document > > > cataloger handling federal documents.) > > > > > I wouldn't take anything I say as being representative of the opinions > > > or feelings of anyone else on this group let alone the group in > > > general. I don't know how much longer I'll be here anyway. > > > > > So use whatever term you would like. I like the term "singles." I > > > liken it to buying trading cards back in the day as "singles" as > > > opposed to "sets." > > > > > On Jul 20, 8:38 am, Van Allen Plexico <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Topic: > > > > Luke <[email protected]> Jul 19 06:03AM -0700 ^ > > > > > > > ...I much preferred buying > > > > > those TPBs to buying the individual pamphlet issues. > > > > >>Oh get over yourself. "Pamphlet," ugh. Do you want a latte with your > > > > > > pretension?<< > > > > > > I'm not sure I get your meaning here, Luke. Disrespectful tone, sure, > > > > but > > > meaning, not so much. > > > > > > That's a term we've used for years on the Avengers group, to > > > > differentiate > > > between trade paperbacks/ hardcover collections of comics and individual > > > comics. > > > I prefer it to the more popular term, "floppies," but it's really all the > > > same-- > > > indicating a very short, thin book(let) with no actual stiff cover and few > > > pages. > > > > > > If it's not welcome in this community, I won't use it again. > > > > > > What is your apparently vehement objection to it? > > > > > > --Van > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "The > > > Unique Geek" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "The Unique Geek" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/theuniquegeek?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Unique Geek" group. 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