the keyboards are not swappable between old and new cheers
George -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury <[email protected]> To: 'Alex Austin' <[email protected]> Cc: thinkpad <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, May 17, 2012 2:41 am Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] New computer suggestions Any idea of the keyboard can be readily changed out like on prior models? I tend to be a hard typist, so I go through keyboards probably every 3-4 months. And I agree with Fn-Up/Down - so much easier, than the way Lenovo does it now. It's also stupid on their part to change so drastically, because I'm used to the back/forward page keys next to the arrow keys (which piss me off when I inadvertantly hit one by accident and have to reenter data on a website). So I wonder if the overall machine quality is going to suffer as well. I remember a lot of people theorizing that Lenovo was going to screw up the ThinkPad line when they took it over from IBM, but it seems to have been a good run for the past 7 years or so. Paul _____ From: Alex Austin [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 21:07 To: Paul Khoury Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] New computer suggestions I will say that the keyboard on my X120e (chiclet style) still retains the snap of a good mechanical keyboard. I would say it's comparable to my T23. Lenovo did indent the top of the keys, so you can feel the shape and keep your fingers centered pretty easily, and while the key travel is a little shorter (obviously, given the size of the computer), it's still a solid snap when the mechanism collapses. I think this may mostly be a cosmetic change. What bothers me more is the loss of the Insert/Delete/Home/End/PgUp/PgDn group in the shape of a proper desktop keyboard - I'm still not used to PageUp/PageDown on the X120, and think I may prefer the way Asus did it on my EeePC (Fn-Up, Fn-Down). - Alex -- Smart is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wise is knowing better than to put one in a fruit salad. On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Paul Khoury <[email protected]> wrote: And for the curious: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57435504-93/lenovo-dumps-classic-keyboard-o <http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57435504-93/lenovo-dumps-classic-keyboard- on-new-thinkpad-laptops/> n-new-thinkpad-laptops/ _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 20:14 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] New computer suggestions The last ones with conventional keyboards are the *20 series... Cheers, George -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury <[email protected]> To: thinkpad <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 11:10 pm Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] New computer suggestions This is really going to suck. So that means T500 or lower for a while. Is they keyboard going to be really cramped and crummy like on Macbooks? Paul _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?> ] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 20:09 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] New computer suggestions ALL new ThinkPads...sigh... Cheers, George -----Original Message----- From: Paul Khoury <[email protected]> To: thinkpad <[email protected]> Cc: 'Nonny' <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, May 16, 2012 11:03 pm Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] New computer suggestions Is this just the X230, or all new ThinkPads? I'm starting to have other issues with the X61 (with hacked firmware), like USB acting strange, but all these quirks make me very hesitant to upgrade (to any brand). Paul -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]?> ?> ] On Behalf Of Nonny Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 17:37 To: [email protected] Cc: Rosen, Robert (NIH/NIAMS) [E] Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] New computer suggestions Also remember that the new machines will not have the 7-row keyboard. :-( Jane On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Rosen, Robert (NIH/NIAMS) [E] <[email protected]> wrote: > Remember the new Thinkpads with the Ivy Bridge processors will be out probably by June/July. You might want to wait for the newer machines or possibly the pricing on the old ones will drop. > _______________________________________________ Thinkpad mailing list [email protected] http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad _______________________________________________ Thinkpad mailing list [email protected] http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad _______________________________________________ Thinkpad mailing list [email protected] http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad _______________________________________________ Thinkpad mailing list [email protected] http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad _______________________________________________ Thinkpad mailing list [email protected] http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad _______________________________________________ Thinkpad mailing list [email protected] http://stderr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/thinkpad
