I try to live up to this philosophy:
"There are two ways of spreading light: to be the candle or the mirror
that reflects it."--Edith Wharton, "Vesalius in Zante," 1902.
When I quote or copy something - I'm the mirror - and I hope to spread
some light.
We can't all be candles - in every respect - always...
Some have the talent to be true artists - and you cannot force this
talent with knowledge and knowhow - but of course you can only
discover your potential by trying to learn the craft from the best
craftsmen.

At my level of "TW'ing" I'm in a continous state of awe (don't know if
it's the right expression) as I see what people do with TW and I do
tinker with "knobs and bolts" myself to make my own adaption - but I
don't think of myself as beeing original or innovative in any
respect... I pick up and learn, little by little.
Descisions and errors are made on the fly - without quite
understanding the basics of JS or Html - but it is my way to be able
do things with TW.
I can only ask for some indulgence, from those of you, who delivers
both knowledge and true artistery in JS or Html - Please try to
understand.
TW is such a rich and versatile instrument, that even someone like me
can hack it to do almost everything I want.
I admire the effort that has been put into the making of TW and
acknowledge the fact that it has become so easy to customize - is a
direct result of many, many hours of hard work powered by a strong
community and some experts personal devotion to TW.

YS Måns Mårtensson



On Apr 29, 11:05 pm, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've made a tiddler with this text: Title MitchkeLeemans Textbody:
> Designer af [[doordouwe.nl|http://doordouwe.nl]] Den originale
> hjemmeside, denne side er bygget på.
> In English: Designer of doordouwe.nl. The original website this site
> is build upon.
>
> If I should do more - please tell me.
>
> And please go through my version to see my added plugins and the
> obvious differences in how I use it.
> I don't think you find 1 tiddler left from your original site (Except
> maybe from the titles "info" and "2009"- Those titles are *not*
> original...)
> I don't like to be categorized as just beeing a "copycat" - when I use
> so much time to learn, clean up, translate and moderate what I find.
>
> YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> On Apr 29, 10:50 pm, Måns <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi ML
>
> > I'm an very sorry if I broke some netetiquette - and I will remedy
> > what I can - if you let me.
> > Please don't think that I'm serious about "the stolen goods" - I would
> > rather try to honour those who really are good at designing css - and
> > the reason why I posted the address and put it there in the first
> > place - was to be able to show some of the beautifully designed TWs
> > I've come across.
>
> > One of the things I've learned about Open Source is that the numbers
> > of copies of original work is the best way to measure it's quality and
> > durability. If I should have asked for permission first - I will ask
> > you to forgive me - and I will remember to do so - if I stumble upon/
> > wants to copy the design of a personal TW-site in the future.
>
> > I would like to thank you for your way of setting theese tools
> > together and your sense for beautifull design - and I will direct
> > anyone who admires the one I've made out of your design to your
> > friends site - If that's ok with you - if it could make things find a
> > level of balance.
>
> > If I can show my respect for your work - in some other way - giving
> > your credentials as the designer of the Css - I will do so. Please
> > give me some advice in this repect. Your adress - maybe full name and/
> > or website. I didn't find any of your data in the original (Or I took
> > them for beeing your friends data - and deleted them at once..)
>
> > I am very unhappy to be in conflict with you or anyone who provided
> > some of these wonderfull tools to the community.
> > Again please give me some constructive advice.
>
> > In the infoTiddler I did put your 
> > name:http://twspot.tiddlyspot.com/index.html#Hjemmeside
> > And wrote this: "Denne hjemmeside er bygget på Jeremy Rustons
> > utrolige, Tiddlywiki. Den betjenes bedst med Firefox. Denne variant er
> > designet af MitchkeLeemans og genbrugt af Måns Mårtensson."
> > In English: This website is buildt upon Jeremy Rustons incredible,
> > TiddlyWiki. It works best with Firefox. This adaption(variation) is
> > designed by MitchkeLeemans and reused by Måns Mårtensson.
>
> > A few corrections:
> > I have not used your text - not even translated it. As a matter of
> > fact I've deleted all references to the original site + links and only
> > kept the plugins and cssrules.
> > I liked the way the default map was set up - and it has been my first
> > investigations in using Eric Shulmans moveable panelplugin and Jons
> > Tagmindmap.
>
> > I'm more new to this, than you can imagine - watching what I've done
> > with TW for the last couple of months, I've realized that some of you
> > TwWizards believes that I ought to know more than I really do - to be
> > able to do what I have done - when it comes to Html-syntax and
> > javascript I am a totally novice - and my age, family- and jobstatus
> > doesn't leave me the time I should need to really investigate theese
> > fields - from books asf. I've learned a lot the past couple of months
> > - and I hope that it's not over yet.
> > I might need some serious advice on what is ok and what isn't  -
> > though.
> > When It comes to plugins, scripts and macros it's fairly easy to
> > follow the "makers" - because they write data into the plugin
> > themselves - and a copy is therefore documenting itself..
> > What about TW-CssCompositions? Where should I
>
> > Regarding your original composition of a TW with TagmindmapPlugin and
> > Moveable Panel - I think it is very beautifull and well balanced. If
> > you take a closer look at the zoomfactors  in the pagetemplate asf -
> > and the defaultmap you will discover that I have made subtle changes -
> > that accomodates the way my version of the tagmindmap and the panels
> > show up..
>
> > Tell me please how you'd like to be mentioned in the site - and I will
> > make the tiddler ...
>
> > Sorry..
>
> > YS Måns Mårtensson
>
> > On Apr 29, 8:11 pm, MobileLibrary <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi mans,
> > >  i read your comment and visited your site. I must say i'm not very
> > > happy with it, i'll try to explain why.
>
> > > > I've put an TwMindMap on TiddlySpot, that shows most of my "stolen
> > > > goods" ...  they're all (almost) in Danish - and most of them are
> > > > filled with my own (very different) projects and a couple of "to-
> > > > become-projects" as well.
>
> > > > If you wan't to investigate my adapted TWs(in Danish), which I think
> > > > are all extremely different in looks and use - Take a look 
> > > > here:http://twspot.tiddlyspot.com
>
> > > you use a site i developed for a friend of mine (as i wrote when i
> > > posted the link) as your portal of 'stolen goods'.
> > > I don't like the fact that you just copied my design, didn't even try
> > > to alter or suit to your taste,
> > > and furthermore use my texts verbatim without saying thank you,
> > > showing it's a quote and not your own text, or, at the minimum,
> > > provide a working link to the site you found your portaldesign, namely
> > > doordouwe.nl.
> > > as much as i appreciate your enthousiasm for all things TW, i really
> > > think you should get a sense of netiquette and maybe it is time to do
> > > some of your own css?
>
> > > next time better, hopefully,
> > > ciao,ML
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