Another 2pence worth, which started off as a 1/2 pence: TiddlyWiki - a fast hypertext tool -------------------------------------------
The text in the original Tw.com was also different to what it is now. The old [[Hello There]] included some reference to encouraging new styles of writing. The text was more aligned to hypertext writing and texts in general as opposed to the technical definition currently used. thre is also a video of Jeremy talking about docuements on google vids. For me the TW is the fastest hypertext authoring tool I've come acrosss, and this is why I use it. At a talk in Manchester as part of the International Hypertext convnetion, hypertext aficionado Mark Bernstein refered to punctuation as being the huge advance in printed texts. I think that the wiki notation, [[for links]] is can be seen as a development that abstacts the linking from html and puts it into punctuation. It makes linking fast and easy and makes it punctuation. The tagging of small chucks of text, the concept behind mirocontent also appears to be have been demoted in the text. This adding of metadata to text is a key factor in semantic web and is a development from fixed hypertext markup systems. At the time of release tagging and tagsnonomy was getting a lot of airtime. Its still important, its become well worn amongst early adoptors but those coming from newly configured corporate firewalls and Word do not know this. While Web 2.0 is tired, we must not forget that the semantic web is about marking up texts meaningfully. A TiddlyText is easy to mark up. As meaning in language becomes more and context dependent (for example the word 'Critical' means two differnet things in healthcare and education fields) tagging and linking using hypertext will become more important so that texts can be read clearly without the citations and referecnces cluttering up the text. On TW.com the means where identity is communicated is on the technical implimentation. "TiddlyWiki is a single html file ..... " : focus on the technical not what can do. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "TiddlyWiki is a single html file." This text does not elaborate on the "a reusable non-linear personal web notebook" - the subtitle and stated definition. Writing authors, such as Barbara Minto [2] and Jacob Neilson [3] would advocate a stronger link between subtitle and opening paragraph. Perhaps the emphasis on the word 'Wiki' in [[Hello there]] outlining the identity of TW should be more closely aliglined to 'personal' , 'small' and 'fast'. These are the reasons I use it, not because it is a single page of HTML. The words "small and fast" stack up with 'tiddler' - a small fish, stickleback or minow in my understanding. Extending the fish metaphor, TiddlyWiki is a shoal of tiddlers. Its a nice way of thinking about a non-linear text and evokes natural systems as does the word 'Osmosoft' derived from Osmosis I guess. (Sugestion - Why not state this if this is the case?) Also absent from the [[HelloThere]] is mention of the Unamesa identity and how it describes TW "Teachers, students, and others should have the same freedom to create, share, highlight, and annotate web based educational resources that they enjoyed with old-fashioned paper, pencils, and textbooks." Unamesa also mentions "supports innovation in education, healthcare, and other team based public services" so given that Unamasa owns the copyright to the TW code, isn't TW being inovatinve in education healthcare and public services? Evidence on the community list would back this up: Måns Matterson and Dickton Bevington are active in these fields. Then there are the definitions from BT arround the purpose of innovation in the context of open source... Structual Coupling ------------------------- Some organisational theorests look at an organsations identity from a natural systems perspective. One method is Structural Coupling. Basically, the organisation is defined by what it is linked to, more specificaly what links cause change to both linked entities. (see http://www.isss.org/maturana.htm - section 2. Structural Coupling) The appearance of the TW communicates some connection to something else that looks similar, but it not a connection which changes that which it is connected to. I think that the CSS route is one way to enhance TW.com, there are many other ways which would be richer. Alex [1] http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=772332146705420259 [2] http://www.barbaraminto.com/ [3] http://www.useit.com/alertbox/headlines-bbc.html [4]]http://blog.unamesa.org/about/ 2009/4/27 Jeremy Ruston <[email protected]> > > Thanks to Alex for those comments, much appreciated. > > I think we can fairly easily change the theme that visitors to > tiddlywiki.com see; by applying it as a custom theme over the top of > the current "default theme" - and without changing the default theme > at all. Then the current theme would become like the old Windows 2000 > theme in XP and Vista: there under the covers, but largely ignorable. > > Cheers > > Jeremy > > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:54 AM, wolfgang <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > >> > backward compatibility is easily taken care of with only a view > >> > lines of a DepreciatedStyleSheet tiddler > >> > >> I'm afraid it's not that simple. > >> For example, if we were to completely re-invent the sidebar (not to > >> mention the layout as a whole), the various selectors/mappings simply > >> wouldn't apply anymore. > > > > Didn't thought of that. But with completely different selectors, as > > for example a rightBar instead of sidebarOptions, it becomes even > > simpler (for a non-developer, anyway), since then there couldn't be > > any interference anymore. But almost the whole of StyleSheetLayout and > > StyleSheetColor tiddlers would have to be used as a > > DepreciatedStyleSheet tiddler instead (in the case of a reinvention of > > the whole layout). > > > >> * ideally as a theme, with a plugin to neutralize the style-sheet shadow > >> tiddlers (that's a few simple lines of code) > > > > If such a plugin would be possible I guess this even the preferred way > > to go, initially (and more light weight too). > > > > > >> Having said that, if someone put effort into redesigning the TiddlyWiki > >> UI, presenting a tangible proposal*, that would be a better basis for > >> any discussions. > >> > > > > I don't think anyone would put in his whole 'CSS love for TW' - only > > to see it teared apart by such discussions as they happened when only > > the SideBarTabs tiddler was hidden at tiddlywiki.com: (or being > > ignored by http://tiddlythemes.com/, as all proposals have been during > > the last year) > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/TiddlyWiki/browse_thread/thread/5f669855f71ad5fb/6e5d6eacb6f149eb?q=SideBarTabs&lnk=ol&# > > > > > > However, I could see two very unconventional options to overcome this > > resistance of TiddlyWiki's community to any serious style development: > > > > *give each of the core developers one version number as an opportunity > > to show his idea of an ideal up-to date-theme (without much discussion > > beforehand). > > or: > > *let's make a contest with a death-line in 1-2 months ahead, where > > everybody could show of ;-) > > > > > > And then make a poll (in a year or so, in the case of the first > > option) and for sure we would have the most amazing TiddlyWiki default > > theme of this planet ever. > > > > With discussions beforehand the 'love for CSS' doesn't has a chance > > really - but will always take a second place to consent. > > > > regards.. > > > > > > > > > -- > Jeremy Ruston > mailto:[email protected] > http://www.tiddlywiki.com > > > > -- t: 0161 442 2202 m: 0781 372 50 17 skype: alexhough delicious: alexhough --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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